Every now and then I hear the word Trinity and still think, that sounds Latin or mathematical or abstract or something.

But if all Trinity means is threeness, well, if you've ever read the end of the Gospel of Matthew,

and you know that we baptize in the name of the Father, the Son, and the Spirit, like, is three in Matthew 28 or isn't it?

If you ask that, who is God on the basis of what's revealed

in scripture question? Well, God is one, and that one God eternally exists as father, son, and spirit.

Welcome to the Crossway podcast, a show where we sit down with authors each week for thoughtful

interviews about the Bible, theology, church history, and the Christian life. I'm Matt Tully, and today I'm talking with Fred Sanders.

Fred serves as Professor of Theology at the Tori Honors Institute at Biola University.

He's also the author of numerous articles and books, including The Deep Things of God,

How the Trinity Changes Everything, with Crossway. Today, Fred and I discuss what it really means to say that God is a Trinity, three persons in one God.

He explains why the doctrine of the Trinity is essential to the Gospel, even if it seems abstract or confusing.

Highlights why all analogies and metaphors are of limited value when thinking about

the Godhead and responds to the charge that the idea of three in one when it comes to the Trinity

is inherently illogical or irrational. Let's get started. Thank you for joining us on the Crossway

Podcast today, Dr. Sanders. It's good to be here.

So I want you to imagine something, if you would, for a minute with me.

Imagine you're on an elevator at a conference and you're running late to speak in a session.

So you step into the elevator, you have about a minute to get to your session, and then in walks another guy who immediately notices the name badge that you're wearing, Fred Sanders, Biola University, and then maybe

even sees the book that you're holding in your hand, the deep things of God, how the Trinity

changes everything, and immediately asked you, and immediately turns to you and says,

that looks like a really interesting book. What is the Trinity and how does it change everything?

How would you respond in that one minute that you have before you need to run off to your session?

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