Welcome to Think Biblically, Conversations on Faith and Culture.

It's a podcast from Talbot School of Theology here at Biola University.

I'm your host Scott Ray, Dean of Faculty, and Professor of Christian Ethics.

And I'm your co-host, Sean McDowell, Professor of Apologetics. of insightful theologian I know, Dr. Brent Waters, has spent a career writing really

insightful and theologically grounded stuff on a whole range of controversial

ethical and social issues and he's written on something that's

completely different than that and his book is entitled common callings and

ordinary virtue I've sort of my shorthand for it is a theology of ordinary life. So Brent, we're so

glad to have you join us. He is the almost retired endowed professor at Garrett Evangelical Theological Seminary

outside Chicago. He's taught Christian ethics there for about 20 years, held

an endowed chair and has been director of the Sted's Center for ethics and for Christian ethics

for some time.

And I look forward, Brent, to when you will actually be completely retired and can devote yourself

fully to writing. I mean, you've been so productive. I can't imagine how productive you're

going to be when you're fully retired, although hopefully you haven't run out of gas.

So anyway, welcome, so glad to have you with us.

And we're looking forward to diving

into this extraordinary book on ordinary life.

Well, thanks for having me back.

So what, you know, after you've spent a career writing on all these controversial ethical and social issues, what motivated you to take up

this subject of the sort of the common and the ordinary part of life and how that shapes us?

Well, two things really, you know, for more than 20 years I actually commuted back and forth

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