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🗓️ 6 April 2021
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On today's episode of the New Statesman Podcast, Stephen Bush, Anoosh Chakelian and Ailbhe Rea discuss the Commission on Race and Ethnic Disparities' report and whether they can find coherence in its findings and proposals. Then, in You Ask Us, they take your question on the latest polling ahead of the Hartlepool by-election.
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| 1:21.0 | Hi, I'm Anouche. I'm Al. I'm Stephen. |
| 1:31.0 | And on today's New Statement Podcast, we discussed the incoherence of the Commission on Race and Ethnic Disparities, and you ask us, what does the polling in Hartley-Paul mean? |
| 1:41.0 | The Long-awaited Commission on Race and Ethnic Disparities report was released last week, and it caused widespread controversy because one of its main findings, which was splashed and briefed ahead of its publication, was that Britain no longer has a problem with institutional racism. |
| 2:02.0 | Of course, when the actual report was published, there were many recommendations in it that seemed to suggest that there was a problem with institutional racism still in this country. |
| 2:12.0 | And so it seems to be quite a confused document that's caused a lot of anger and inspired a great deal of heat, but not very much light. |
| 2:21.0 | You were on holiday when it was released, which actually ironically means that you had quite a lot of time to actually read it and take it in and avoid the churn of news and the distractions of the briefings last week. |
| 2:33.0 | So what did you make of it when you were first reading it? |
| 2:36.0 | As listeners may know, I'm sharing a commission on racial inclusivity within the Jewish community for the Board of Deputies. |
| 2:43.0 | I read it in the order I would like people to read my report. I started with the recommendations, you read the recommendations, and then I started on the report itself. |
| 2:52.0 | And I'm not going to lie, my overwhelming reaction to the whole thing was confusion. |
| 2:56.0 | Those recommendations, parking for a moment of the ones which I do not think could be operationalized, are things that you can easily imagine, Harriet Harmon, Jeremy Corbyn, Joseph and Theresa May. |
| 3:07.0 | Literally any politician, any mainstream politician of the last 30 years coming out with on this issue. |
| 3:15.0 | In terms of the full report, the full report does not find the institutional racism doesn't exist yet. |
| 3:22.0 | Welcome to an affirmed, the definition of institutional racism used in the MacPherson report. |
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