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washington's 12 to 7 scintillating win over scoggleberry bears but any win for this team right now is a good

win we're going to get to that in a minute a couple of things i'm not going to ignore to ignore the ESPN report. I, of course, work for ESPN. You can read my work on ESPN. I will have

Seth Wickersham on, maybe one of the other investigative reporters who worked on that story.

Not ignore it. You're going to talk about it. But tonight we're going to talk about the the commanders 12 to 7 win and so I'm here with Nikki Javala. Nikki, there's a lot to unpack here.

Just a little bit. I mean, I don't even know where to begin on this one. You have Ron Rivera

walking off after the press conference. You have a win for the first time on. Where do you start here?

Yeah, I think we start at 6 a.m. Thursday morning when the ESPN report comes out,

which also happened to be when NFL.com fully reported Carson Wines' string bicept tendon injury.

What else do we have to say? Brian, William Jackson, now the center of trade discussions, apparently.

Brian Robinson starting at running back while Antonio Gibson takes his first kickoff return.

And oh, by the way, they actually really truly have to win this game to staff and a

losing streak.

And they do, but just barely.

It was so awful.

But they won. And we'll get,

I guess we can go a little bit on some of the stuff. I'm like William Jackson. He has not

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