Coming soon: Martin Wolf and Paul Krugman unleashed
Political Fix
Financial Times
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🗓️ 4 June 2025
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Summary
In a special six-part series of The Economics Show, Martin Wolf, the FT’s chief economics commentator, and Nobel Prize-winning economist Paul Krugman discuss the economic events reshaping the world in the wake of US President Donald Trump’s election.
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| 0:00.0 | I'm Martin Wolf, the Financial Times chief economics commentator. |
| 0:04.2 | And I'm Paul Krugman, professor at the City University of New York, and I guess self-employed |
| 0:10.5 | online pundit. |
| 0:11.7 | In six episodes to run throughout June and early July, we'll be discussing the economic |
| 0:16.5 | events reshaping our world. |
| 0:18.4 | And it's going to be interesting doing this together because, |
| 0:23.0 | well, we've known each other, according to my calculations, around 40 years. So what topics |
| 0:30.3 | would you like to discuss? I mean, obviously, it doesn't look like the trade war and all of that |
| 0:34.6 | is going to be over any time soon, and we need to talk about that. |
| 0:40.2 | Are you prepared to think a little about the political economy of this? How can it be that |
| 0:46.3 | what is on the face of it, the most successful economy in the world, has decided to elect |
| 0:52.9 | somebody who intends to blow it up. |
| 0:55.0 | I'm friends with some science fiction writers, people who write sort of near future dystopian |
| 1:00.2 | stuff, and they're very upset because they feel that they're being put out of a job, |
| 1:04.4 | because what's actually happening is making everything that they wrote look mild by |
| 1:09.5 | comparison with the reality. |
| 1:11.5 | I mean, if it weren't for Donald Trump, we would be talking a lot about how do we get China |
| 1:17.8 | to not be such a disruptive player in the world economy? |
| 1:23.0 | I'd like to talk about Europe and why is it lacking almost for consolation. |
| 1:28.5 | I've been doing some work on AI and what it might mean. |
| 1:32.0 | These are all things that if it weren't for that guy in the White House, |
| 1:35.3 | would all be at the top of our conversation and really we should be talking about. |
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