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Today's episode is with actor Zoe Lister Jones.

We talk about coming out later in life after being in a long-term marriage to a man,

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Thank you for being here.

So happy to finally meet you.

Yeah, same.

We're going to talk about kind of your journey with your sexuality and how you came out later in life, which is something that our listeners have really requested, especially after being married.

I think that's such an experience that people are wanting to hear.

But I want to start early.

Okay.

What are some of the lessons that were like ingrained into you as a child?

I mean, I was raised in Brooklyn in the 80s, not to age myself, but there was like a lot of survival, a lot of focus on survival.

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