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Coming in Andy: Britain's prime minister-in-waiting

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The Economist

News, News & Politics

4.35K Ratings

🗓️ 19 June 2026

⏱️ 25 minutes

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Summary

Andy Burnham won a by-election he needed in order to challenge Sir Keir Starmer, Britain’s prime minister. We look at the path ahead for him. The Iran deal seemingly promises a financial windfall for the country and its regime—one that its battered economy sorely needs. And the mythmaking of presidential libraries, as seen in the latest one: Barack Obama’s.


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Guests and host:

  • Hugo Gye, British political correspondent
  • Fraser McIlwraith, foreign correspondent
  • Jon Fasman, senior culture correspondent
  • Jason Palmer, co-host of “The Intelligence”


Topics covered: 

  • British politics, Andy Burnham, Labour party 
  • Iran war, Iran deal, Iran’s economy
  • Barack Obama, presidential libraries


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Transcript

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0:00.0

The Economist

0:02.0

Hello and welcome to the intelligence from The Economist.

0:13.0

I'm Jason Palmer.

0:19.0

Today on the show, the Iran deals effect on a battered economy

0:22.7

and a tour of Barack Obama's presidential library.

0:31.6

First up, though.

0:47.3

Thank you. First up, though. In general, we don't spend a lot of time on the show looking at by-elections in Britain. But this one, this one we told you might be seismic.

0:50.3

Makerfield is a constituency in northwest England that, until yesterday, sat at the centre of British national politics.

0:58.0

From here on, I will give everything I have got to make it so.

1:03.0

To ensure the name Makerfield is forever synonymous with bringing about the change this country needs, bringing back something

1:14.5

we've lost, hope, hope for the future.

1:20.3

Andy Burnham, the Mayor of Greater Manchester, needed to win the election in order to get

1:24.2

into Parliament, and from there, to challenge Sir Kier Starrmer as leader of the Labour Party and therefore as Prime Minister.

1:31.3

Well, he did it. Step 1, tick.

1:34.3

Everyone knows that politics isn't working.

1:39.3

Everyone can feel that the country isn't where it should be.

1:45.0

Tonight could, just could, be the turning point.

1:50.0

It could just be, after quite a bit more party politicking.

1:55.0

Andy Burnham's won the by-election in Mayleca Field by a comfortable margin.

1:59.0

He took 55% of the vote with Reform UK, the right-wing populist

2:02.5

party, quite far behind on 35%.

2:05.4

Hugo Jai is our British political correspondent.

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