All I want is a believable lesbian playing me.

What about me?

You're too old.

Damn it.

It's on.

My friend. My guest today is comedian TIGM. Hi, everyone from New York Magazine and the Vox Media Podcast Network. This is on with Kara Swisher,

and I'm Kara Swisher. My guest today is comedian TIG Nataro. She's best known for her dry-witted stand-up comedy, but she's also a podcaster, actor, director, and producer for film and television,

including, most recently, the documentary, Come See Me in the Good Light about the spoken word poet Andrea Gibson.

The film documents Gibson's life in relationship with their wife, Meg, after being diagnosed with incurable cancer.

I've met TIG a number of times at a variety of events, and I've always thought she was one of the most outstanding standupsups around and, of course, got well known after her own cancer diagnosis when she started talking about it on stage.

It also broke the ice for other comics to talk about death and grief in their sets.

I wanted to talk to TIG about that legacy, how she thinks about how comedy is shifting.

She's also been amazing on the morning show, playing a chief of staff of a tech giant,

she's doing an absolutely perfect job as one of the most heinous people I've ever encountered

in my reporting career.

I also want to hear about her career moves and where she wants to go next.

Our expert question comes from Pulitzer Prize winning writer Geraldine Brooks,

whom I interviewed earlier this year about her memoir, Memorial Days,

which is about the sudden death of our husband.

This may sound dark, but it's actually very uplifting,

especially in this time we're focusing on things to be grateful for.

You'll be grateful for this interview, I think,

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