And I thought, oh my God, I don't know what my real voice is. I don't know because I'm just like,

you're talking like that and pretty silly voices all the time. Oh, oh, no, right. Oh, silly. All the time.

And how exhausting is that for people to have to listen to

let alone you as the person doing it. You are listening to made of human also

known as the mow part a podcast hosted by Sophie Hagen, who is a Danish comedian.

Mo-P-Pah!

Trying to find out how to do life. Mo turns out nobody knows mopah If you are like me, and also like Lou Conrad who's the guest of the show today, you like homework you like homework and if you do like homework then you

might want to give the other podcast the only other podcast, the only other podcast, Griefcast, a little listen, the one with Lucanran.

So you have a basis for knowing what we're talking about on this episode. You can totally listen to it even if you haven't heard anything else, even if you've never heard about Lucanran before.

She does refer to and also before you listen to any more of this and if

you have any kind of triggers do just quickly check out the trigger warning that is always in all of the

episode descriptions just to make sure that this won't make you very sad very quickly

so check that. Good. Lou talks about not in great detail but she references the

loss of her baby and it is horrible it's a

just a horrible horrible thing to have happened and on grief cast she talks about

it in great detail she's also written articles about it she's done a whole stand-up show about it in great detail. She's also written articles about it. She's done a whole stand-up show about it as well. So I didn't feel the need to ask her about it in detail, but she does reference it throughout the episode and if you want a fuller understanding of what she's talking about you can go and listen to grief cast or read some of her articles.

But so yeah, that was just a little bit of extra homework if you want also in general

grief cast is a very good podcast so you should listen to it anyways but not now

because right now you're listening to my podcast. Stay, please stay.

So I just, Lou Kahnman just left to my hotel room why we did this episode.

She's an incredible person.

I'm very happy about this conversation that we just had.

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