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We're all made of human.

Hello, you are listening to the Made of Human Podcast. I'm Sophie Hagen.

Hi, how are you? I'm well, I'm, I'm, I'm, I've needed these few weeks of holiday I think I'll say that I've needed a few

weeks to just do nothing I've not showered like there's like a point where I didn't shower for three days.

I have showered now, but I just, I was just wearing my, I was just wearing my pyjamas all the time and I needed that so much.

Because it's been a busy you know last year was busy

but I want to open this year with this episode oh my God this is Jamali Maddox and if you don't know and you might not you might not know

Jamali. He's not he's not huge yet. Oh but I promise you he will be. Holy shit. I am grateful that I know of him. I'm grateful that I know him. I'm grateful that he wanted to do the podcast. He is. Do you remember the Dane Baptist episode?

Like this is, this has the same density.

I don't know, they remind me of each other in some kind of way so Jamale did a TV show for

vice where he traveled the world meeting racists I mean well you'll hear all about it in the episode, but I just want you to get so excited about this.

This is, it's all of those where there's a chance you might need to sit down.

Listen, I don't know, I don't want to make it sound too harsh but it is it's

brilliant it's so good. So first I quick before we listen to him I quickly want to

say I'm doing my show Shimashata at the

soho theatre in May you can get tickets on soho theatre that come I'm filming my show

shimmer shatter on the 13th of February at 6 and 9 p.m. if you want to get in on that that means if you've not

seen the show before for various reasons you can email me at made of human

podcast at g Gmail.com.

Okay, that's a very secret just for you.

And on the 14th of February for about two or three weeks until March, The first, I'm doing a new show,

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