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Come Together: Ep. 277

Tablet Studios

Tablet Magazine

Judaism, Society & Culture, Religion & Spirituality

4.61.5K Ratings

🗓️ 10 June 2021

⏱️ 69 minutes

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Summary

This week on Unorthodox, it’s everyone vs. Bibi. Our Jewish guest is Iranian American writer Roya Hakakian, whose latest book, A Beginner's Guide to America: For the Immigrant and the Curious, paints a portrait of what the new immigrant experience in America is really like. She explains how, in addition to the grand ideals of liberty and opportunity offered in America, the mundane day-to-day elements of American life—like being able to return clothing to a store—remain jaw-droppingly liberating for immigrants, long after they’ve arrived. Our Gentile of the Week is poet and Yale Divinity School professor Christian Wiman, who shares how Abraham Joshua Heschel inspired his personal religious journey, and how that journey is foundational to his poetry. His question for the hosts is a personal one: Do they believe in god, or is their connection to Judaism more cultural? Like the show? Rate us on iTunes! Subscribe to our weekly newsletter to get new episodes, photos, and more. Join our Facebook group, and follow Unorthodox on Twitter and Instagram. Get a behind-the-scenes look at our recording sessions on our YouTube channel! Get your Unorthodox T-shirts, mugs, and baby onesies at bit.ly/unorthoshirt. Want to book us for a live show? Email producer Josh Kross at jkross@tabletmag.com. Check out all of Tablet’s podcasts at tabletmag.com/podcasts. Sponsors: AJWS supports activists defending the sexual health and rights of women, girls and LGBTQI+ people across the world. This Pride Month, make a twice-matched gift to AJWS that supports local organizations advocating for justice for all people and building equitable communities at AJWS.org/unorthodox. Harry’s is the perfect gift for Father’s Day. New customers can get a Starter Set for just $3, and from now until June 20, take $5 off any shave set at harrys.com/unorthodox.

Transcript

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0:00.0

This is Unorthodox, the universe's leading Jewish podcast.

0:09.5

I am your host, Mark Oppenheimer, joined as ever by Tablet, editor at large, Leo Lieboets.

0:14.8

Shalom lecha, chaviri heto.

0:17.1

Lecha dodi to you, Leo.

0:19.1

And by Tablet, deputy editor, Stephanie Butting.

0:21.7

Reporting for duty.

0:23.0

Is that how you feel about this podcast?

0:25.0

It's like you're a weekend of basic training every month or weekend of service.

0:28.3

No, I'm here.

0:29.3

I'm ready.

0:30.3

It's like you're touring Vietnam.

0:32.6

It was Tuesday morning, and the rain wouldn't stop falling down sideways.

0:36.6

I was laying in the trenches with Oppenheimer and Lieboets.

0:39.7

Good morning, Vietnam.

0:42.2

Our Gentile of the Week is poet, Christian Wyman, who is Gentilic.

0:46.4

Like there's actually talk about Jesus in this interview.

0:48.8

Like he comes with real Gentile game.

0:50.8

And our Jew of the Week is author Roya Hakakin, whose most recent book is A Beginner's Guide

0:55.2

to America.

0:56.2

It's really extraordinary treatment of what it is to be an immigrant from someone who came

0:59.9

here after the revolution in Iran in 1979 and remembers what it was like to walk into

1:05.4

the supermarket and see stuff on the shelves, and it's a great book and a great interview.

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