Come, Follow Me with FAIR – Moses 1; Abraham 3 – Jennifer Roach Lees
Latter-day Saint FAIR-Cast
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🗓️ 11 January 2026
⏱️ 21 minutes
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Summary
Jennifer and guest Sarah Allen discuss the books of Moses and Abraham.
Sarah Allen is a Senior Researcher with FAIR, a former member of Scripture Central’s research team, and the 2022 recipient of the John Taylor: Defender of the Faith Award. An avid reader, she loves studying the Gospel and the history of the restored Church. After watching some of her friends lose their testimonies, she became interested in helping others through their faith crises. That’s when she began sharing what she’d learned through her studies. She is a co-moderator the LDS subreddit on Reddit and the author of a multi-part series rebutting the CES Letter. She is also the co-host of FAIR’s “Me, My Shelf, & I” podcast. She’s grateful to those at FAIR who have given her the opportunity to share her testimony with a wider audience.
Jennifer Roach Lees holds a Master in Divinity as well as a Masters in Counseling Psychology. She is a licensed mental health therapist and lives in Utah.
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| 0:00.0 | What's your thoughts on like the average Latter-day Saint who maybe gets introduced to these ideas, these worries? |
| 0:08.0 | They're not at the level of scholarship that like Stephen Smoot is able to understand. |
| 0:12.3 | Most of us are not. |
| 0:12.9 | Most of us are not. |
| 0:14.7 | What's the average member to make of all of this? |
| 0:17.4 | Should they be worried? |
| 0:26.4 | No. of all of this. Should they be worried? Welcome back to Fairs. |
| 0:27.8 | Come Follow me, Old Testament Year. |
| 0:29.9 | I am so excited for our episode today. |
| 0:32.4 | I have a friend and special guest with us, Sarah Allen. |
| 0:35.9 | Welcome, Sarah. |
| 0:36.8 | Hey. |
| 0:37.0 | If you do not know Sarah by name or by |
| 0:40.3 | face, I guarantee you, you have been exposed to some of her work. She has written the white |
| 0:45.6 | papers behind some of your favorite apologetic podcasters. She worked for Scripture Central. |
| 0:51.0 | She's now working for fair. Sarah has a brain that I envy. She has an ability to |
| 0:55.6 | research that I envy, ability to bring information together. Thrilled to have you here. I am happy to be |
| 1:01.4 | here. Today we are talking about Moses and Abraham. Sarah, which one do you want to start with? |
| 1:08.0 | I have more to say about Abraham. So what do we start with Moses? |
| 1:11.7 | I don't know if you know this. Moses was the very first book of latter day scripture that I ever read. |
| 1:16.2 | That is so interesting. I know. It's a long story that I won't tell here, but that was my very first exposure. And I remember at the time reading it, kind of going along thinking, |
| 1:26.8 | well, I don't disagree with this. |
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