Come, Follow Me with FAIR – Genesis 18–23 – Jennifer Roach Lees
Latter-day Saint FAIR-Cast
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🗓️ 24 February 2026
⏱️ 22 minutes
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Summary
Jennifer and guest Sarah Allen discuss the topic of polygamy.
Sarah Allen was a Senior Researcher with FAIR, a former member of Scripture Central’s research team, and the 2022 recipient of the John Taylor: Defender of the Faith Award. An avid reader, she loved studying the Gospel and the history of the restored Church. After watching some of her friends lose their testimonies, she became interested in helping others through their faith crises. That’s when she began sharing what she’d learned through her studies. She was a co-moderator of the LDS subreddit on Reddit and the author of a multi-part series rebutting the CES Letter. She was also a co-host of FAIR’s “Me, My Shelf, & I” podcast.
Jennifer Roach Lees holds a Master in Divinity as well as a Masters in Counseling Psychology. She is a licensed mental health therapist and lives in Utah.
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| 0:00.0 | What I really want to talk about, though, today is probably something, it's not completely explicit in the text, |
| 0:06.4 | but it's all in the context of not only this part of Genesis, but everywhere that we're going to go for many, many books of the Old Testament. |
| 0:13.6 | And that's polygamy in the Old Testament and how it functions. |
| 0:17.1 | We think about Old Testament polygamy, and we think about Latter-day St. Polygamy of 150 years ago, right? |
| 0:24.9 | Right. |
| 0:25.3 | It is so understandable to me that a lot more feelings come up about the more recent polygamy. |
| 0:30.1 | And yet, there's some real similarities between the two systems. |
| 0:33.7 | Oh, there's some big similar. |
| 0:34.4 | And so that is actually very similar to the way that ceilings work. |
| 0:37.9 | So when a woman is married and sealed to a man and say he dies, and so she marries somebody else, and they are not sealed because she doesn't cancel her ceiling to her first husband. |
| 0:47.0 | Any children that she has with her new husband actually in the next life are sealed to her deceased husband. |
| 0:54.5 | They're born under whatever ceiling is current for her. |
| 0:57.8 | Yes. |
| 0:58.2 | Children follow the mother's ceiling. |
| 0:59.8 | So it's kind of the same principle. |
| 1:01.7 | That's why you see some of the things with like Sylvia Sessions where she told her daughter that she was Joseph's daughter. |
| 1:08.8 | She wasn't his biological daughter. |
| 1:10.3 | She was technically Joseph's daughter because she was born under the ceiling. |
| 1:14.5 | Isn't that interesting? |
| 1:15.3 | Do you think that it is a little different just because, you know, our society, our Western society is very, very different from the ancient Near East. |
| 1:23.8 | Again, with our more recent plural marriages, it was always a choice. |
| 1:28.3 | Yeah. |
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