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August 11-17
I used to look forward to the tail end of our Thanksgiving and Christmas feasts in Missouri because my Dad, a brilliant and world-renowned geologist and geological engineer, and Darrell Ownby, part of our family and a world-class ceramic engineer, and Nord Gale, a celebrated, favorite professor and brilliant microbiologist and Harold Romero, also a brilliant physicist, would stay at the table and discuss deep gospel questions. Many times, the conversations would go way over my head, as they talked about creation, celestial worlds, spirit elements, atomic elements and the qualities of light—but I tried to follow along as best I could. Hey, I was only 12 years old! But this was the beginning of my yearning, thirst and hunger for knowledge. I could not get enough of it. These discussions around the table were amazing. And then I was introduced to Section 88 of the Doctrine and Covenants. I was blown away. This deep water is the subject of our podcast.
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| 0:00.0 | Maureen, I used to look forward to the tail end of our Thanksgiving and Christmas feasts in Missouri |
| 0:23.6 | because my dad, a brilliant and world-renowned geologist and geological engineer, |
| 0:29.6 | and Darryl Onby, part of our family and a world-class ceramic engineer, |
| 0:34.6 | and Nord Gale, a celebrated favorite professor and brilliant microbiologist, |
| 0:40.3 | and Harold Romero, also a brilliant physicist, would stay at the table and discuss deep gospel questions. |
| 0:49.3 | Many times the conversations would go way over my head as they talked about creation, celestial |
| 0:57.0 | worlds, spirit elements, atomic elements, and the qualities of light. But I tried to follow along |
| 1:04.0 | as best as I could. Hey, I was only 12 years old. But this was the beginning of my yearning, thirst, and hunger for knowledge. |
| 1:13.6 | I could not get enough of it. These discussions around the table were amazing. And then I was |
| 1:21.6 | introduced to Section 88 of the Doctrine and Covenants. I was blown away. This deep water is the subject of our |
| 1:30.9 | podcast today. Welcome to Meridian magazine's Come Follow Me podcast. We are Scott and Maureen Proctor, |
| 1:39.0 | and we are delighted to be with you again this week and begin a discussion around your table of section 88 of the |
| 1:46.3 | Doctrine and Covenants. This section is so long and so deep, it even took the Prophet Joseph |
| 1:52.6 | three different sessions on three different days to have it recorded. I just want to say thank you |
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| 2:30.3 | We have often been in that upper room of the Newell K. Whitney store in Curtland, Ohio, |
| 2:37.0 | where this great revelation was received, Section 88 of the Doctrine and Covenants. |
| 2:42.7 | I think it's fascinating, Scott, that on Christmas Day in 1832, |
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