Hello, hello hello. Welcome to Smart Talks with IBM, a podcast from Pushkin Industries,

I heart radio and IBM. I'm Malcolm Gladwell. This season we're talking to new creators, the developers,

data scientists, CTOs, and other visionaries who are creatively applying

technology in business to drive change.

Channeling their knowledge and expertise,

they're developing more creative and effective solutions

no matter the industry.

Our guest today is Angela Hood, founder and CEO of This Way Global.

Angela's mission is to eliminate discrimination in the hiring process.

Angela is a serial entrepreneur who saw the potential to use automation technology

as a way to combat the human biases that lead to unfair hiring practices and a less diverse, less competitive workforce.

On today's show, you'll hear how automation makes it easier than ever to connect businesses

with the right candidates, why automation is such a powerful tool to

mitigate bias, and how Angela's own experiences with discriminatory hiring

inspired her to take action.

Angela spoke with Jacob Goldstein,

host of the Pushkin Podcast,

What's Your Problem, and former host of NPR's Planet Money.

Jacob has been a business journalist for over a decade reporting for NPR, The Wall Street Journal, The Miami Herald,

and is the author of the book Money, The True Story of a Made Up Thing.

Okay, let's get to the interview.

Can you tell me just, you know, we're going to get into it a lot, but very briefly, what is this way global?

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