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The Ancients

Combat Trauma

The Ancients

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4.73.5K Ratings

🗓️ 9 August 2020

⏱️ 49 minutes

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Summary

From the 2000 historical blockbuster 'Gladiator' to the Total War series, brutal hand to hand warfare is something we commonly associate with antiquity. But do we have any ancient cases of psychological injury as a direct result of military service? Joining me to discuss this topic, focusing on cases from the Classical Greek Period (c.500 – 323 BC), is Dr Owen Rees. Owen is a historian of ancient warfare and society. He has also written papers about the possibility of an equivalent phenomenon to PTSD in ancient Greek warfare and how that trauma manifested itself differently in ancient Greek culture. In this podcast, we focus on the cases of two specific individuals from the Classical Period: Epizelus the Athenian and Clearchus the Spartan.

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0:00.0

How significant was combat trauma in the ancient world?

0:05.8

At how did ancient societies view people who had been psychologically affected by the

0:10.2

brutal hand-to-hand warfare we associate with the ancient world today?

0:16.1

To talk about this topic I'm chatting with Owen Rees.

0:19.0

Owen has written papers about the possibility of an ancient equivalent of PTSD in ancient

0:23.9

warfare and how that trauma manifested itself differently in ancient Greek culture.

0:29.9

Enjoy!

0:35.9

Owen is great to have you on the show.

0:37.9

Thank you very much for having me. I'm very excited.

0:39.9

PTSD in ancient warfare and classical Greek warfare, this is something you argue that there must have been.

0:45.9

Yeah, to an extent I certainly do.

0:47.9

My work tries to separate the diagnosis of PTSD which should not exist outside of the modern world.

0:54.9

I don't think it fits anywhere else. It's such a socially medically specific issue to the modern day

1:02.9

and psychology can't really be picked apart from the society that creates it and talks about it.

1:08.9

However, the diagnosis to one side, the phenomenon of a psychological injury as a result of military service

1:16.9

and non-combatants, I certainly fit in this model of it must exist but probably didn't look the same as it does now.

1:29.9

So how do you define combat trauma in the ancient world?

1:33.9

Well, at this core combat trauma it's sort of similar to what I've said.

1:37.9

What we're talking about here are psychological injuries predominantly as a direct result of military service.

1:45.9

Military activity, which immediately causes a few problems because how can you prove something has a,

1:53.9

is a direct result from warfare if it's talked about generally.

1:58.9

So you know, this is not an easy topic to address but it kind of gives you the idea what we're looking for is behavioral shifts,

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