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Combat Story

Combat Controller in Black Hawk Down | Air Force Special Ops | World Record | Author | Dan Schilling

Combat Story

Ryan Fugit

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4.81.3K Ratings

🗓️ 31 December 2022

⏱️ 98 minutes

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Summary

Today we hear the Combat Story of Dan Schilling, who spent over 30 years in the military, primarily as a Combat Controller and Special Tactics Officer in the Air Force’s Special Operations community. He was on the ground calling in air strikes during Operation Gothic Serpent (better known as Black Hawk Down).

He holds the Guinness World Record for most BASE jumps in 24 hours (201), and is a professional-rated demonstration skydiver, mountain speedwing pilot and volunteer ski instructor with Wasatch Adaptive Sports. He’s a best selling author, helping produce a movie, and recently wrote a song with his band: Spent Brass.

After years of combat, Dan found his way to Buddhism and shares some readings and learnings that you can apply if you are dealing with trauma and challenges in your life.

I hope you enjoy this hair on fire account of living life to its extremes - both in and out of uniform - as much as I did.

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Find Dan Online:

  • - Website https://www.danschillingbooks.com/
  • - Dan's Books https://www.danschillingbooks.com/books
  • - Instagram @danobooks https://www.instagram.com/danobooks/
  • - Special Operations Warrior Foundation https://specialops.org/
  • - Spent Brass on Spotify https://open.spotify.com/artist/3K3t1GNUdaPYmvEgCAslZg?si=NgQc3ywRRtmMiVSun8yFMw

Dan's Reading List:

  • Book called the Power of Now https://shop.eckharttolle.com/collections/books/products/the-power-of-now?variant=7433430499358
  • Book called the Power of Awareness
  • https://www.thepowerofawareness.org/
  • Book called Battle of Mogadishu
  • https://www.booksamillion.com/p/Battle-Mogadishu/Matthew-Eversmann/9780345459664
  • Book called Alone at Dawn
  • https://www.grandcentralpublishing.com/titles/dan-schilling/alone-at-dawn/9781538729670/
  • Book called What the Buddha Taught
  • http://www.ahandfulofleaves.org/documents/what%20the%20buddha%20taught_rahula.pdf

Show Notes:

  • 0:00 - Intro
  • 0:57 - Guest Introduction (Dan Schilling)
  • 1:47 - Interview Begins
  • 2:33 - World Record Base Jumping in 24 hours
  • 6:44 - Speed flying in the mountains
  • 9:14 - Did you choose the dangerous life or did it chose you?
  • 12:19 - Joining the Army
  • 16:02 - Transition from the Army to the Air Force
  • 20:15 - Media and Hollywood portrayals of the military
  • 25:29 - JTAC and Combat Controllers
  • 34:06 - Special Tactics Officer
  • 38:48 - Culture differences between Seal Team 6 and Delta Force
  • 42:09 - First experience in ground combat
  • 48:00 - Combat Story - The Battle of Mogadishu
  • 1:03:18 - Therapy through Extreme Sports
  • 1:13:37 - How Dan found Buddhism
  • 1:27:47 - Dan's Band: Spent Brass
  • 1:22:19 - Dan's post military careers and book recommendations
  • 1:31:35 - What did you carry into combat?
  • 1:32:24 - Would you go back and do it all again?
  • 1:35:27 - Listener comments and shout outs

Transcript

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0:00.0

The hangar was empty. It was a ghost town. And I was in there. I had ran out of ammunition because I didn't pack enough ammo because I figured when things went bad, I'd be on the radio.

0:10.0

It was always my ammo for gun fights and going out and stuff. Plus, I'm already carrying more weight than anybody else out there.

0:16.0

So when I ran out of ammo, I'm like, I'm not doing that again because I ran out of, I was getting ammo from dead and wounded guys.

0:21.0

So I got every magazine I own, like 13 mags, and I'm loading ammo and I'm sitting there with this buddy of mine who's a SEAL from SEAL Team 6.

0:28.0

And I looked up at him and he looked at me and I'm like, man, I don't want to go back out there.

0:31.0

He's like, I don't want to go back out there either. And we just went back to loading clips and it's like, of course you're going back out there, man.

0:37.0

My best friends, my two best friends in a world are out there.

0:40.0

Welcome to Combat Story. I'm Ryan Fugid and I serve Warzone Tours as an Army Attack Helicopter Pilot and CIA Officer over a 15-year career.

0:48.0

I'm fascinated by the experiences of the elite and combat. On this show, I interview some of the best to understand what combat felt like on their frontlines.

0:57.0

This is Combat Story.

0:59.0

Today we hear the combat story of Dan Schilling, who spent over 30 years in the military, primarily as a combat controller and special tactics officer in the Air Force's special operations community.

1:09.0

He was on the ground calling in aircraft strikes during Operation Gothic Serpent, better known as Black Hawk Down.

1:15.0

He holds the Guinness World Record for most bass jumps in 24 hours with 201 and is a professional rated demonstration skydiver, mountains speed wing pilot and volunteer ski instructor.

1:26.0

He's a best-selling author, is helping produce a movie and recently wrote a song with his band Spent Brass.

1:31.0

After years of killing, Dan found his way to Buddhism and shared some readings and learnings that you can apply if you're dealing with trauma and challenges in your own life.

1:38.0

I hope you enjoy this hair on fire account of living life to its extremes both in and out of uniform as much as I did.

1:47.0

Dan, thanks for taking the time to share your story with us today.

1:51.0

Ryan, I'm really happy to be here and it's a pleasure, man. I'm looking forward to the discussion.

1:58.0

And just for people who are listening and not watching, you can't see, but behind Dan's shoulder, he's got his coin collection, which is slightly larger than like the four rows that, you know, the two rows that I have back here, which is an indication of the time spent in these different units and we'll dig into that.

2:15.0

I wanted to start, Dan, if we could with something we had just touched on before we started recording the world record.

2:21.0

So I read this, allowed to my kids last night as I was kind of getting all my notes back together. Could you share the world record that you hold and win that happen?

2:31.0

When did you undertake that in your life?

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