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Columbia's Emily Bell on the McClatchy bankruptcy, the 'crisis' of local journalism, and how 'civic media' could help

Reliable Sources

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3.41.4K Ratings

🗓️ 14 February 2020

⏱️ 44 minutes

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Summary

Columbia Journalism School professor Emily Bell, the founding director of the Tow Center for Digital Journalism, talks with Brian Stelter about the effects of local newspaper losses and the highly partisan websites that are trying to exploit the void. Bell calls them "pink slime sites." Bell discusses Facebook and Google's power: "Control of the media has totally changed in the last 15 years, and we have not really come to terms with that." She also talks about potential regulations that could help local news.To learn more about how CNN protects listener privacy, visit cnn.com/privacy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

One of the nation's top newspaper publishers is going bankrupt. What does it mean to you?

0:07.0

That's one of the questions here on this week's Reliable Sources Podcast.

0:11.0

So come on in. Welcome, I'm Brian Stelter.

0:13.3

I'm your host for this weekly podcast.

0:15.8

In between our Sunday television broadcasts on CNN,

0:19.1

this podcast is our chance to go in depth

0:21.1

with media leaders and newsmakers talking about how the news is made and

0:25.4

sometimes how the news is unraveling and that's what we're seeing right now.

0:30.1

McClatchy is the nation's second largest publisher of local newspapers and on

0:34.4

Thursday February 13th it filed for bankruptcy. This was years in the making it kind of

0:40.7

seemed inevitable at one point but it was still a signal moment for the struggles, the continuing struggles of local publishers.

0:48.0

So let's talk about it and more with Emily Bell.

0:52.0

She's a professor of the Columbia Journalism School

0:54.3

and the founding director of the Tao Center

0:55.9

for Digital Journalism at Columbia.

0:58.2

She also writes for the Columbia Journalism Review

1:00.1

and for the Guardian.

1:01.2

Emily, thanks for being here. Thanks for having me, Brian.

1:04.0

McClatchi's bankruptcy just feels like more of the same and maybe that is what's surprising is that

1:10.0

this is becoming just the new normal.

1:12.0

Yeah, I'm afraid so and we've had. this is becoming just the new normal?

1:12.6

Yeah, I'm afraid so and we've had a couple of really terrible years in particularly

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