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🗓️ 13 October 2025
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| 0:00.0 | Any LLM that was trained on pre-1915 physics would never have come up with a theory of relativity. |
| 0:08.0 | Einstein had to sort of reject the Newtonian physics and come up with this space-time continuum. |
| 0:13.0 | He completely rewrote the rules. |
| 0:15.0 | AGI will be when we are able to create new science, new results, new math. |
| 0:20.0 | When an AGI comes up with a theory of relativity, it has to go beyond what it has been |
| 0:24.5 | trained on to come up with new paradigms, new science, that's by definition of AGI. |
| 0:31.4 | Fashal Mistra was trying to fix a broken cricket stats page and accidentally helped spark |
| 0:35.3 | one of AI's biggest breakthroughs. |
| 0:37.3 | On this episode of the A16Z podcast, I talk with Vashal and A16Z's Martin Thessado |
| 0:42.4 | about how that moment led to retrieval augmentation generation and how Vichal's formal |
| 0:47.1 | models explain what large language models can and can't do. |
| 0:50.5 | We discuss why LLMs might be hitting their limits, what real reasoning looks like, and what it would take to go beyond them. |
| 0:56.8 | Let's get into it. |
| 1:00.5 | Martine, I knew you wanted to have Vichal on. |
| 1:03.0 | What do you find so remarkable about him and his contributions that inspired this? |
| 1:06.4 | Vishal actually have very similar backgrounds. |
| 1:08.3 | We both come from networking. |
| 1:09.3 | He's a much more accomplished networking guy than I am. That's a high bar given you in a field. And so we actually view the world |
| 1:15.1 | in an information theoretic way. It is actually part of networking. And with all this AI stuff, |
| 1:21.1 | there's so much work trying to create models that can help us understand how these LLMs work. |
| 1:28.3 | And in my experience over the last three years, the ones that have most impacted my understanding, |
| 1:33.3 | and I think have been the most predictive, are the ones that Vichal has come up with. |
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