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No Lie with Brian Tyler Cohen

Colorado Governor’s clemency for Tina Peters backfires

No Lie with Brian Tyler Cohen

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🗓️ 24 May 2026

⏱️ 69 minutes

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Summary

Colorado Governor Jared Polis’ decision to grant clemency to Tina Peters predictably blows up in his face. Brian interviews California gubernatorial candidates Matt Mahan and Xavier Becerra and North Carolina Supreme Court justice Anita Earls.


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Written by Brian Tyler Cohen

Produced by Sam Graber

Recorded in Los Angeles, CA


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0:00.0

Colorado Governor Jared Polis' decision to grant clemency to Tina Peters predictably blows up in his face.

0:06.6

And I've got three interviews, California gubernatorial candidates Matt Mayhan and Javier Bacera,

0:10.9

and North Carolina Supreme Court Justice Anita Earls.

0:13.5

I'm Brian Tyler Cohen, and you're listening to No Lie.

0:18.1

So the news broke about a week ago that Colorado Governor Jared Polis granted clemency to election denier and Steve Bannon-ackelite Tina Peters.

0:26.5

I actually held off on saying anything about this topic because, look, I obviously have a lot of thoughts about that decision.

0:33.5

But I've been trying really hard to get Jared Polis to come on for an interview to discuss.

0:37.2

And I didn't want to speak out before he had Polis to come on for an interview to discuss,

0:41.2

and I didn't want to speak out before he had the opportunity to come on and explain his rationale.

0:47.4

And I emailed his team nearly every day, and almost every day I got excuses as to why he wasn't available, even though his team had granted an interview to legacy media with Caitlin Collins

0:52.1

at CNN. And look, I think she's one of the best reporters on

0:55.8

television, so I certainly have no beef with her. But obviously, the decision by Polis to go on

1:00.3

legacy media and cut out independent media altogether is a pretty apt microcosm for Democrats'

1:06.4

failures altogether. So it wasn't really a surprise that somebody like Jared Polis has learned

1:11.1

exactly no lessons in the last few years, whether it's about where people on the left are

1:15.1

consuming information or whether it's a good idea to commute the sentences of people who wanted

1:19.7

to overturn the previous election on behalf of Donald Trump. And so now Trump has a blueprint.

1:25.5

He knows that if he attacks someone enough, if he threatens

1:28.4

to sick his army of supporters on someone enough, if he uses the government as a cudgel

1:33.1

against his enemies enough, they'll relent and bend to his will. And so in the face of already

1:38.6

so much capitulation from news networks and tech companies and CEOs and law firms, universities, we can now add

1:45.5

Democratic governors to the list of those who Trump knows will eventually succumb to his whims

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