The weeds are here.

The weeds are coming from inside the house.

Hello, welcome to another episode of the weeds on the Vox Media Podcast Network.

I'm Matthew Iglesias, here with Darryl Lind.

And we also have joining us today, Andrew Prokop, who is the keeper of all things Russia and

Mueller and sometimes related things having to do with Stormy Daniels.

Yeah, ever so often we drag Andrew into the podcast studio and go, Andrew, we've officially lost

track of everything that is happening with Trump and Russia and various criminal and non-criminal

investigations help. And so this is another round of that. And it's a lot of happening.

Yeah, quite a few things have happened recently. But one thing that I think just helps sort of

structure this is there was a kind of flurry of reports recently that the Senate Intelligence

Committee had wrapped up its investigation and there was no collusion or at least no proof of

collusion. And you know, I guess a good place to start is like, like, is that right? Like,

what do we know about colluding from all these sentences that have been handed?

So I think first off, we have to separate the Senate Intelligence Committee investigation from

the Mueller investigation. They've proceeded completely separately. And these were comments by

Richard Burr, the chairman of Senate Intel, a Republican from North Carolina. And he said

something like they found no in their own investigation, no direct evidence of collusion.

Then the Democrats started pushing back a little bit saying, oh, well, we found some sort of

you know, there's maybe circumstantial stuff like questions arose from stuff we found. But

you know, they haven't released their findings. So we don't really know what it is exactly. They

found or didn't find. And in any case, the main event is not this committee's investigation.

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