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Before we begin, I want to let you know that this episode contains a description of torture.

There are many times reporting this story when I wish I'd been in the room.

It's one of the drawbacks of looking into something that began decades ago.

You have to rely on other people's experiences.

I'd love to have been a fly on the wall at the York Hotel in Belfast back in January

1990. It's a cold and drizzly Tuesday at noon. Inside the hotel, there's a quiet smoky bar

where a top loyalist fighter called Brian Nelson is...

Chain smoking players number six, these hideous little cigarettes that he smoked all the time.

And he was drinking vodka.

Brian's the head of intelligence for the Ulster Defence Association, or UDA, the biggest

loyalist paramilitary.

He's a short man with mousy brown hair and a grim reputation.

He was a very unpleasant individual.

Small man's syndrome that wanted to prove that he was capable of carrying out heinous crimes.

He was a drinker, he was a psychopath, he got convictions for violence,

and attempted murder.

He's there to meet reporter John Ware from BBC Panorama.

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