The episode you're about to listen to was released back when the mere Christians podcast was called the call to mastery

Now if you love mere Christians, you're still going to love these older episodes because the majority of each

conversation focuses on how the gospel influences the work of our guests. With that disclaimer out of the way, please enjoy the episode. Hey everybody welcome to the call to mastery. I'm Jordan Rayner. This is a

podcast for Christians who want to do exceptional work for the glory of God and the good of others. Each week I host a conversation

with the Christian who's pursuing world-class mastery of their craft. We talk

about their path to mastery, their daily habits. of their Today I'm joined by Colin Hanson and Sarah Zylstra. Colin is the editor and chief of the Gospel Coalition.

He's a graduate of Trinity Evangelical Divinity School. He's also got a degree in journalism for Northwestern

where Sarah also went to school and got a degree in journalism.

Sarah today is a senior writer and the faith and work editor at the Gospel Coalition

so you can see why I wanted her and Colin on the show. She also co-authored a book

with Colin recently called Gospel Bound, which was terrific.

So the three of us set down, we had a really interesting debate about what the whole

self movement will mean for Christians in the workplace.

We talked about the surprisingly practical implications

of the theological truth called inaugurated eschatology, and we talked about the three problems with following your passions

in your career.

I think you guys are really going to enjoy this conversation with Colin and Sarah from the Gospel Coalition.

Colin and Sarah, it is a joy to be with you guys today. So Sarah hey I want to start with you

because in this great great book Gospel Bound you guys mentioned something I talk a lot about with regards to discerning one's vocational path, at least I think these ideas are connected.

You guys mentioned these three problems with the secular, you know, you do you, find yourself language.

Would you mind sharing those three problems

with this kind of ideology with our listeners? Sure, and I think that's a great link.

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