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Speaking of document management, Joe, I feel like the college football playoff committee is getting all their documents right to help the ACC.

If I am Jim Phillips, ACC commissioner this morning, I wake up and I go full dumb and dumber.

So you're saying there's a chance, not just a chance to have one college football playoff entrant.

Because I know yesterday, everybody was freaking out.

Including me.

There's a possibility still, however slim,

and the college football playoff committee is giving the ACC this opportunity.

Hey, hey, guys, you could still get two.

And you're probably asking, well, wait a minute.

Yesterday, you guys were saying we are in DefCon 2.

2 because Duke might be the league champ 8 and 4,

and they might get left out if they're not one of the top ranked conference champions.

Top 5, yes.

Automatic bids for the top 5 conference champions.

That's on the table. That was on the table. And yet, the college football playoff committee came out yesterday and said, eh, you know what, though? We like Miami a hell of a lot, all things considered. And we're setting the table to have Miami get in to the college football playoff, even if they don't show up in the ACC championship game. It's not mathematically possible for them to show up in the in the ACC championship game.

It's not mathematically possible for them to show up in the ACC championship game,

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