College Campus Conundrum
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🗓️ 20 August 2020
⏱️ 60 minutes
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Summary
On this week’s episode: Jamilah and Elizabeth are joined by Natalie Hopkinson.
Natalie is an assistant professor in the doctoral program in Howard University’s Department of Communication, Culture and Media Studies. She is also an award-winning essayist, critical-cultural scholar and the author of three books: A Mouth Is Always Muzzled: Six Dissidents, Five Continents, and the Art of Resistance, Go-Go Live: The Musical Life and Death of a Chocolate City, and Deconstructing Tyrone.
They discuss college students making consequential decisions about whether or not they can, or should, return to campus. Many institutions are still changing policies, which may have significant consequences to students safety, financial welfare, travel plans, and quality of education. Especially if the student is in a field that requires hands-on experience.
The hosts also debate if a little one is sharing too much with his K9 bestie.
In Slate Plus: Elizabeth, Jamilah and Natalie reminisce about their college days. Slate Plus members get a bonus segment on MADAF each week, and no ads. Sign up now to listen and support our work.
Recommendations:
Jamilah recommends making an easy Key Lime Pie. Just follow the instructions on the back of the Nellie & Joes: Famous Key West Lime Juice bottle.
Natalie recommends Grace for President by Kelly DiPucchio and Islandborn by Junot Díaz.
Elizabeth recommends the card game Ecosystem.
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The Kids Are Asleep, the hilarious Slate Live show. Catch it via Slate’s Facebook or YouTube on Thursdays at 10:00 p.m. ET / 7:00 p.m. PT.
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| 0:00.0 | The following podcast contains explicit language. |
| 0:05.8 | Welcome to Mom and Daughter Fighting, Slate's parenting podcast for Thursday, August 20th, the College Campus Conundrum Edition. |
| 0:13.9 | I'm Elizabeth Newkamp. I write the homeschool and family travel blog Dutch Dutch Goose. |
| 0:18.0 | I'm the mom to three littles, Henry 8, Oliver 6, and Teddy |
| 0:22.2 | 3, and I'm located in Navar, Florida. I'm Jamele Lemieux. I'm a writer and cultural critic, a contributor |
| 0:28.6 | to Slate's Care and Feeding Parenting Column and host of Slates. The Kids are Fighting, |
| 0:34.3 | evening chat show. And I'm mom to Naima, who is seven, and we live in Los Angeles, |
| 0:39.0 | California. Filling in for Dan this week is Natalie Hopkinson. Natalie has her PhD. She's an award-winning |
| 0:46.0 | essayist and critical cultural scholar. She is also an associate professor in the doctoral program |
| 0:52.3 | at Howard University's Department of Communication, Culture, and Media Studies. |
| 0:57.5 | Natalie, welcome to the show. |
| 0:59.5 | Thank you for having me. |
| 1:01.0 | Natalie, I'm so excited to have you on and to reconnect with you. |
| 1:05.5 | I, until we logged on today, had forgotten how we first met, quote unquote. |
| 1:11.6 | My earliest memory of you is deconstructing Tyrone, which is this phenomenal book that you wrote about black masculinity in the hip-hop era, along with Natalie Moore, both named Natalie, and you wrote this great book together. |
| 1:24.6 | And I just thought that that's how I first found you. |
| 1:27.4 | No. Wrong. It actually first found you. No. |
| 1:28.4 | Wrong. |
| 1:29.4 | It actually happened much earlier. |
| 1:31.7 | And again, we met virtually because we actually did not meet face to face. |
| 1:35.4 | I became acquainted with a writer named Jamila Lemieux when Natalie Moore's younger sister, Megan, had created this fashion show at Howard called Pimp Harder. |
| 1:49.4 | And it drew a big, huge controversy because there was this op-ed by this writer named Jamila Lemieux, who, I think, was it, Think Harder. |
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