College Breaks & Changing Relationships with Dr. Lisa Damour
Laugh Lines with Kim & Penn Holderness
Kim Holderness
4.9 • 3.4K Ratings
🗓️ 16 December 2025
⏱️ 62 minutes
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Summary
When our daughter went off to college, I expected that she would change and she has. In a completely amazing, independent way. What I didn't expect is that we would change too. Now, she's home for holiday break and we're both navigating this changing relationship with no roadmap. (Time to call in an expert for some advice!)
This week on Laugh Lines, Penn and I are joined by one of our favorite humans and parenting expert, Dr. Lisa Damour. She helps us navigate this weird, wonderful in-between that happens when your college kid comes home. We cover everything from crossed wires and unspoken expectations to late wake-ups, missed dinners, and the moment you realize you’re not parenting a kid anymore — you’re kind of living with a roommate.
We also talk about why college kids basically hibernate when they come home, how to know when something is actually wrong, and how to celebrate the amazing new person your child is becoming — even when it feels unfamiliar. Plus, Penn goes full science nerd... again. (Don't say I didn't warn you!) We love to hear from you (and tell us what you want in 2026!) leave us a message at 323-364-3929 or write the show at podcast@theholdernessfamily.com. You can also watch our podcast on YouTube.
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Laugh Lines with Kim & Penn Holderness is an evolution of The Holderness Family Podcast, which began in 2018. Kim and Penn Holderness are award-winning online content creators known for their original music, song parodies, comedy sketches, and weekly podcasts. Their videos have resulted in over two billion views and over nine million followers since 2013. Penn and Kim are also authors of the New York Times Bestselling Books, ADHD Is Awesome: A Guide To (Mostly) Thriving With ADHD and All You Can Be With ADHD. They were also winners on The Amazing Race (Season 33) on CBS.
Laugh Lines is hosted and executive produced by Kim Holderness and Penn Holderness, with original music by Penn Holderness. Laugh Lines is also written and produced by Ann Marie Taepke, and edited and produced by Sam Allen. It is hosted by Acast. Thanks for listening!
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| 0:00.0 | This is exclusively a me problem. Yeah. That I want my children's home to be here. I've never heard it said this way. We're transitioning into her being a roommate. I think a partial roommate, right? I mean, everything is a little bit there. If we vote on that, everyone's going to say yes, and I'm going to start writing space songs, and I'm going to spend most of my time apologizing to people. Hey, everybody day. I'm Kim Holderness. |
| 0:38.6 | And I'm Penn Holderness and welcome to Laughlines. |
| 0:40.6 | We're so glad you're here. |
| 0:41.6 | If you high fived yourself after getting a full night's sleep, self-five, you are home. |
| 0:49.3 | We are your people. |
| 0:50.4 | This is the sort of thing we celebrate in our house. |
| 0:52.9 | A full night of uninterrupted sleep. |
| 0:55.0 | Uninterrupted sleep. If you are redoing your guest room to make it nicer because maybe you and |
| 1:01.9 | your husband are going to spend more nights apart, although they are deeply in love, but want |
| 1:07.3 | an interrupted sleep and free from snoring. You're in the right place. |
| 1:11.2 | Then your name might be Kim Holderness. |
| 1:12.8 | Yeah. |
| 1:29.4 | I'm on board with that because I'm usually the one who gets kicked because I'm the night owl. But I'm redoing it so that like I'm like repaint and make it cozy. Yeah, but that'll help me too. Because maybe you'll want to go over there. I'll go over there. Oh, okay. Because right now it's just like a dumping ground of like furniture we had when we were first married. |
| 1:29.9 | That's true. |
| 1:31.7 | And so I'm go over there. Oh, okay. Because right now it's just like a dumping ground of like furniture we had when we were first married. That's true. And so I'm going to repaint. Yeah. We got the peloton out of there. We got the peloton out. You don't want that. Like you're sleeping in all of a sudden you're like sleeping in separate beds and all of a sudden you hear like a and you hear Cody like shake them |
| 1:43.1 | fias bhaugh! |
| 1:44.4 | And you're like, |
| 1:45.1 | does he or does he not say that? And you hear Cody like, shake them, B. |
| 1:48.0 | And you're like, does he or does he not say that? |
| 1:48.7 | Yes, he does. |
| 1:48.9 | Okay. We have an amazing episode for you today. |
| 1:53.5 | Dr. Lisa D'Amour is here. |
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