I'm going to Hi and welcome to the working songwriter. The show is today's best songwriters come to talk shop.

I'm your host, Joe Pug.

Each episode here we host a distinguished guest and we ask them to go deep on their inspiration, on their process, on the general ups and downs of making a life in music. So, whether you're a grizzled veteran, settling

lawsuits from fans that bought expensive NFTs from you in the year 2019, or else a scrappy upstart minting NFTs in the same

ironic way that young hipsters once sold cassettes. This is your show because

ultimately it is what every writer seeks most an ironclad excuse to put off actually writing. Hey everybody it's the last Friday of June 2024 and I thank you for joining us

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