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The Herd with Colin Cowherd

Colin Cowherd Podcast - OKC Thunder Are UNSTOPPABLE, Notre Dame’s Tone Deaf Complaints, Caleb Williams Comp? Shedeur Better Than Expected

The Herd with Colin Cowherd

iHeartPodcasts and The Volume

Football, News, Basketball, Sports News, Sports

4.110.3K Ratings

🗓️ 12 December 2025

⏱️ 51 minutes

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Summary

Colin is joined by Danny Parkins, host of “First Things First” on FS1.

They start with the red-hot 24-1 Oklahoma City Thunder and why they are positioned to go on a 5+ year run of sustained success due to smart management & analytics rather than money like the Dodgers do in baseball (3:00). They debate whether the goal of parity is achievable and whether it’s good for sports (9:30).

They discuss why the influx of Asian fans really helps the MLB but the international stars in the NBA doesn’t move the needle in the same way, and the varying importance of star players to their respective sports (13:00).

They weigh in on Notre Dame’s complaints about being left out of the college football playoff despite not being a member of a conference and why the whining is not surprising (27:30). They also discuss how the playoff & conference realignment  has led to the death of bowl games and some great rivalries (34:00).

They talk about why the “influencer” nature of Shedeur Sanders scared teams away from drafting him and why he’s proven to be much better than GM’s and scouts thought he’d be, but Danny cautions that it’s too soon to label him a franchise quarterback (40:30). 

Finally, they  highlight the tremendous progress and improvement Caleb Williams has made in year two. Colin argues that his comp is a “shorter Josh Allen” and Danny counters with a “young Aaron Rodgers” (53:00)

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0:00.0

This is an I-Heart podcast.

0:02.5

Guaranteed Human.

0:05.4

The volume.

0:08.1

This episode is brought to you by Netflix.

0:10.3

Netflix is basically Santa this year.

0:12.3

Two NFL games on Christmas Day streaming live.

0:15.1

At one Eastern Cowboys Commanders, Dallas is suddenly red hot.

0:19.8

Could play big for the NFC playoff picture.

0:22.0

Then at 4.30, you've got the Lions struggling against the Vikings.

0:25.1

That's Midwest football playoff stakes.

0:26.9

Two teams battling it out for the number one seed last year.

0:30.1

Must win for Detroit.

0:31.4

So watching holiday football is a tradition, the whole family can get into.

0:34.8

Settle and watch it.

0:35.6

The NFL Christmas Day games live on Netflix, starting at 1 p.m. Eastern Time.

0:40.1

Watching holiday football is a tradition the whole family can enjoy, open some gifts,

0:44.2

grab some food, settle in, and watch NFL live on Netflix Christmas Day starting at 1 p.m. Eastern Time.

0:57.7

So Danny Parkins is joining me.

0:59.1

You know, I'm from First Things First.

1:02.9

And if our camera angle looks a little weird this week, it's a long story.

1:04.5

But you're going to have to deal with it, people.

1:06.7

That's just technology that's finest.

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