Colin Cowherd & Landon Donovan react to World Cup Draw: How Far Will Messi & Ronaldo Advance?
The Colin Cowherd Podcast
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🗓️ 9 December 2025
⏱️ 10 minutes
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Summary
Colin is joined by U.S. Men's soccer legend Landon Donovan and host of the “Unfiltered Soccer” podcast with Tim Howard to preview the 2026 World Cup.
They start with group J featuring 2022 champions Argentina & Lionel Messi and Landon explains why Argentina is great with Messi… but also great WITHOUT him (:30).
Moving to group K headlined by Portugal and Cristiano Ronaldo, they discuss whether Portugal is capable of hoisting the trophy and providing the one missing piece to Ronaldo’s resume (2:20).
They head to England’s group L and discuss the overvalued expectations for the English team and the crushing pressure they face from an aggressive media (4:00).
Finally, Landon recounts his favorite places to play around the world as a member of the U.S. team (7:30)
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| 0:00.0 | The Volume. |
| 0:02.0 | Today's World Cup Draw Reaction is presented by Haleon, the maker of Advil, Centrum, Tums, |
| 0:08.0 | Sensadine, and Voltaren. |
| 0:10.0 | They've teamed up with U.S. soccer for the assist, a campaign celebrating all the moments |
| 0:15.0 | of support that make the big goals possible, because every goal starts with an assist. |
| 0:19.0 | In the history of the every goal starts with an assist. |
| 0:33.6 | In the history of the United States men's national team, the man you're looking at has the most goals and most assists in the history of our country. |
| 0:36.5 | And we have ourselves a World Cup. |
| 0:40.5 | Okay, Argentina headlines group J, Algeria, Austria, and Jordan. When you said, um, the defending champs, messy will do messy things, which is just |
| 0:47.2 | individual greatness off script. Nobody has won back to back world Cup since I believe Brazil 58 to 62. |
| 0:55.0 | It's a different world. |
| 0:57.0 | It's as moneyed and is competitive and now we're expanding the tournament. |
| 1:03.0 | So it's very difficult. |
| 1:05.0 | There's an argument the last World Cup was perfect timing because you kind of had it felt like |
| 1:11.4 | the end of Messi's prime, just the end of it. He's now out of his prime. How dependent is Argentina |
| 1:18.9 | on Messi? What Scoloni has done their coach a fantastic job of is they are very good with him |
| 1:26.0 | and they're also very good without him. And that's a really unique quality. When you think about players at the end, think about LeBron, right, how do you, you know, the first part of this season, the Lakers are playing really well and Austin Reeves is going off and Luca's great and whatever. And now you have to play LeBron. He's LeBron. And so my question is for them is, how will they use messy, right? Remember, it's in the summer, Colin, it's hot, there's travel, it's not going to be easy. And he's, I think, 39 years old, you can't play every minute of every game. He just can't. Maybe he'll prove me wrong. Maybe they'll prove me. But I don't think they're |
| 2:01.3 | going to get the best out of him or Argentina if he plays every minute. So the real conversations are |
| 2:06.2 | going to be way before the World Cup with Scoloni their head coach, talking to Leonel Messi and saying, |
| 2:11.1 | look, this is how I'd like to use you. Let's work together so we get this thing right because |
| 2:15.6 | I don't want you playing every minute and you |
| 2:17.7 | can't play every minute if we're going to be successful. |
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