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The LRB Podcast

Colin Burrow: Fiction and the Age of Lies

The LRB Podcast

London Review of Books

Society & Culture

4.4581 Ratings

🗓️ 12 February 2020

⏱️ 69 minutes

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Summary

The line between making a fiction and telling a lie has been blurry at least since Homer, and liars – from Odysseus and Iago to Austen’s Wickham and beyond – have often played central parts within fictions. This lecture will aim to tell some (though not all) of the truth about the relationship between lies and fiction from Homer to Ian McEwan, and will ask if fiction has responded adequately to the maggoty abundance of lies in public life at the present time. Read more by Colin Burrow in the LRB: lrb.me/colinburrowpod Subscribe to the LRB from just £1 per issue: mylrb.co.uk/podcast20b Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

The age of lies is probably as old as time. When I was young, there was a comedian who did a

0:11.8

Bristolian version of the Fall of Man. In the Garden of Eden, God says to Adam in the Bristol

0:17.7

version, Adam, you've been eating them apples?

0:23.4

And Adam replies, I never.

0:28.4

God then says, what are all them bloody apple cores doing on the ground then?

0:33.1

Adam's I never is the original lie.

0:36.8

It's childlike and innocent in its palpable untruth.

0:43.6

A more sophisticated lie is delivered by Zeus in book two of Homer's Iliad.

0:51.8

Zeus sends a lying dream to Agamemnon, the leader of the Achaeans, in the form of ancient Nestor.

0:55.1

The dream, let's call him fake Nusios,

0:58.1

tells Agamemnon that Troy is about to fall.

1:01.7

But now, listen well, I bring word to you from Zeus,

1:05.1

who, though far distant, greatly cares for and pities you.

1:09.2

He bids you arm the long-haired ochaeans for battle with all speed,

1:12.4

for now you may take the broad-streated city of the Trojans. Now that is a lie because Zeus actually wants to punish the Achaeans and doesn't want

1:18.6

Troy to fall. But since the dream comes from Zeus, Agamemnon reports it to his fellow leaders.

1:26.0

The real Nestor is understandably skeptical about what his dream-like

1:30.6

doppelganger has said and murmurs, had it been any other Akeon who informed us of this dream, we'd call it a lie

1:37.8

and have nothing to do with it. Then something extremely odd happens, which reveals a lot about lying, generally, in fiction and in life.

1:48.7

Agamemnon, having been lied to by Zeus, decides to stand up in front of the Achaean soldiers and lie to them about Zeus's lie.

1:59.3

He doesn't say, Zeus says that if we attack today we're finally going to kick

2:03.3

some pesky Trojan, but instead he says we've lost. It's time to go home. Great Zeus, Kronos's

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