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Conversations With Coleman

Coleman Hughes Special: Candace Owens, Brigitte Macron & Our Age of Conspiracy

Conversations With Coleman

The Free Press

Philosophy, Society & Culture

4.82K Ratings

🗓️ 13 August 2025

⏱️ 9 minutes

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Summary

I watched the eight-hour series on the French First Lady by podcaster Candace Owens, so you don't have to. It’s a fascinating window into a mind gripped by extreme apophenia: the tendency to see patterns where none exist. So just how and why did Candace Owens spread this lie? Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

Welcome to another episode of Conversations with Coleman.

0:03.8

Today I'm going to talk about conspiracy theories.

0:13.4

Hi listeners. I want to tell you about the Free Press's latest new podcast, old school with Shiloh Brooks.

0:20.2

When we met Shiloh, he was one of the most popular

0:22.7

professors at Princeton, and he was making reading great books cool again. Now he's hosting this show

0:28.8

to help all of us and young men in particular get back into reading for pleasure. The show

0:34.9

features intimate conversations with fascinating men, from fitness gurus to philosophers

0:39.4

about books that shape their lives. They cover books like The Old Man in the Sea, Middle

0:45.0

March, and down and out in Paris and London to bring you a truly old school education. New

0:50.7

episodes out every Thursday. And in fact, I am one of his first guests.

0:55.0

So go to old school with Shiloh Brooks on Apple, Spotify, or wherever you get your podcasts.

1:01.5

9-11 was an inside job.

1:03.8

The attempted assassination of Donald Trump was staged.

1:07.2

Israelis secretly control the U.S. government, and on and on they go.

1:12.5

I thought our culture had reached peak conspiracy.

1:15.9

But thanks to Candace Owens, we've now reached New Heights.

1:19.9

For the past year or so, she's been peddling the bizarre theory that Brigitte Macron,

1:25.0

the 72-year-old wife of French president, Emmanuel Macron, was born a male.

1:31.1

This proposition was originally the brainchild of Natasha Ray, a French citizen who first put forth

1:37.5

the idea on the YouTube channel of a woman named Amandine Roy, who was a self-described medium.

1:43.8

Always a good sign.

1:45.7

From there, it passed to the independent French journalist, Xavier Poussard, who wrote a

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