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Coleman Hughes on Colorblindness, Jazz, and Identity

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Conversations with Tyler

Society & Culture, Education

4.82.4K Ratings

🗓️ 1 May 2024

⏱️ 57 minutes

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Summary

Coleman Hughes believes we should strive to ignore race both in public policy and in our private lives. But when it comes to personal identity and expression, how feasible is this to achieve? And are there any other individual traits we should also seek to ignore?

Coleman and Tyler explore the implications of colorblindness, including whether jazz would've been created in a color-blind society, how easy it is to disentangle race and culture, whether we should also try to be 'autism-blind', and Coleman's personal experience with lookism and ageism. They also discuss what Coleman’s learned from J.J. Johnson, the hardest thing about performing the trombone, playing sets in the Charles Mingus Big Band as a teenager, whether Billy Joel is any good, what reservations he has about his conservative fans, why the Beastie Boys are overrated, what he's learned from Noam Dworman, why Interstellar is Chris Nolan's masterpiece, the Coleman Hughes production function, why political debate is so toxic, what he'll do next, and more.

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Recorded March 6th, 2024.

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Conversations with Tyler is produced by the Mercadus Center at George Mason University,

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bridging the gap between academic ideas and real world problems.

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Learn more at Merkatus.org.

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For a full transcript of every conversation, enhanced with helpful links,

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visit Conversations with Tyler.com.

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Hello everyone and welcome back to Conversations with Tyler.

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Today I'm here with Coleman Hughes.

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Coleman has a great new book out, The End of Race Politics,

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Arguments for a color-blind America.

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But Coleman is more than just a book author.

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He is a well-known blogger. He has a very famous podcast, Conversations with

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Coleman. He has been a star in rap music. He plays jazz music, trombone professionally, in New York City nightclubs and he's all around a public

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intellectual and famous person.

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Coleman, welcome.

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Thank you so much and I have to apologize for stealing the name of your podcast for mine.

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I figured I have a literation so I have extra reason to do it.

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If your name was Tyler it would be, but in fact it's totally fine.

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Now before we get to your book, I have just some random questions for you.

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What have you learned from J.J. Johnson?

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What is most interesting about J.J. Johnson. What is most interesting about J.J. Johnson is that he was an extreme perfectionist.

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What people don't realize about J.J. at least people that aren't deep kind of kind of sores is that most of his solos on his records were prepared

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to an extent that is not true of his other contemporaries like Charlie Parker,

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