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Valencia is, he's perhaps the best natural politician I've ever met. He could walk into any room,

even people who don't speak Polish, and somehow figure out how to get their attention and

get them to listen to watch them.

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Richard Hornick was the Warsaw Bureau Chief of Time magazine from 1980 to 1981.

He carried out numerous interviews with Solidarity Free Trade Union leader Lech Valenza, including his last

interview before martial law was declared in 1981. Richard shares the stories of 1980s Poland,

as well as the interviews he carried out with the Solidarity Leadership and the Leaders of Communist

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In today's episode, Richard and I talk about his interview with General Yaroselski

and his meeting with Father Jersey Populescu as well as his challenges with the SB Polish Secret Service.

We welcome Richard to our Cold War conversation.

Tyne Magazine had a Vienna Bureau of a dozen people.

Of course, Life magazine was still around then as well, but they had cars and drivers and photographers. It was a big deal. And of course, that all culminated in 68 with the check uprising and the Prague Spring. But after that, aside from a few hiccups and Poland and a couple of other places,

Eastern Europe really fell off the map.

And so for, I'd say between 1970 and 1980 time probably had seven or eight

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