Hey, Sam.

Hey, folks, can I reintroduce you all to Peter Frick Wright, host of the Outside Podcast and friend and occasional

collaborator with the show?

And folks, can I introduce you to Sam the normal everyday every episode

host of outside in so Pete you you live out in Portland Oregon and and you surf right yes

I'm a I'm a dedicated surfer but as such you'd think I'm a dedicated surfer, but as such you'd think I would be better at it.

Do you surf? I have surfed maybe a half dozen times, mostly in Maine in the fall, which means a lot of neoprene.

And it also means I've never had what I think is a rite of passage for surfers, which is a shark

encounter. Yeah, I have.

So I like a lot of learning to surf comes from talking with

surfers about surfing.

And there's a certain amount of like,

everyone has a shark story, but they all sort of begin the same way of just

like I was out there and I just kind of felt a tingle on the back of my neck that I couldn't explain and I looked around like between sets and there was nothing different but like you know

There was there was something like it's just this sort of like sense and they call it out here like they call it the

sharky feeling and like when you describe you know what's the surfing like in

Oregon well it's cold dark and sharky. Because it's just a feeling that you get.

Yeah. The thing that to me is funny is that by all rights it seems like we should be scared of sharks.

Like they are undeniably predators.

They can swim at 30 miles an hour.

Like you can't see them coming when you're in the water.

And all that's scary.

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