Col Roy "Deacon" Qualls | "Shoot Them Down If They Don't Respond" — The 9/11 ROE Nobody Talks About
The Afterburn Podcast
John "Rain" Waters
4.9 • 1K Ratings
🗓️ 25 April 2026
⏱️ 85 minutes
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| 0:00.0 | I don't eject and I hit that ditch and I go up on a wing and knocks the bottom wraps off |
| 0:04.0 | bomb racks off gear crumbles goes up on a you know about 9 degrees and comes back down |
| 0:11.0 | and for a second I sit here and I look around I go okay I'm still alive oh and that is a fire it is no kidding |
| 0:17.0 | plane is on fire and I safe the the seat, runaway bravely, and watch this OV10 burn |
| 0:25.6 | right there in front of me. |
| 0:27.6 | To our entire, six is really few, we're only four, left, 10, zero, zero and five, |
| 0:31.6 | takeoff. Seats tied out two to zero eyes, we're clear for takeoff, clear for the airspace. |
| 0:35.6 | Fire protection two. |
| 0:36.6 | Close me, five for a tripspace. Deacon, thanks for joining me on the podcast. I'm excited to talk about you, your career, some stories and everything in between. So again, thanks for taking the time today. You bet, Ray. Thanks for having me on. Absolutely. So kick it off with just a little bit about, if you give me the 60 to 90 second kind of elevator pitch, broad brush of who you are, where you've been, and what you're doing today, and then we'll probably, we'll jump back to the beginning after that. |
| 1:13.0 | Okay, yeah, Roy Deacon Qualls. |
| 1:15.9 | I am currently a triple seven pilot at a major airline. |
| 1:21.6 | I was active duty Air Force for 10 years. |
| 1:24.5 | I was in the Guard in New Orleans for another 16 years after that. Got hired, |
| 1:30.0 | you know, pretty spectacularly good deal. Got hired at an airline when, right the day after my |
| 1:35.9 | commitment was up, did a year in the day on the panel and then went on mill leave, a series of |
| 1:41.7 | mill leave, voluntary furlough, deferred recall for 16 years, and then |
| 1:46.7 | went back to the airline, you know, kept seniority intact and everything else. So hired at an |
| 1:50.9 | airline in 99, but essentially stayed away for over 16 years and then came back once I retired |
| 1:56.5 | from the guard. Yeah, we definitely can dig into that a little bit non-standard, I think, for most people. |
| 2:02.7 | And ironically enough, I've actually flown with several guys similar circumstances to you, |
| 2:07.3 | hired in that 2000 time frame, when a lot of furloughs, a housing crisis, and ended up on |
| 2:14.0 | mill leave, normally just limited to five years with some you know there's some |
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