COJ #140 - A Cup of Resilience With Author Kate Moore: Unearthing The Unstoppable Voice & Inspiring Life of Elizabeth Packard

Cup Of Justice

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4.6 • 4.3K Ratings

🗓️ 5 August 2025

⏱️ 58 minutes

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Investigative journalists Mandy Matney and Liz Farrell welcome author Kate Moore to discuss her book "The Woman They Could Not Silence," which chronicles Elizabeth Packard's journey being held captive within an insane asylum in the 1860’s. Inspired by the #MeToo movement, Moore aimed to explore the historical silencing of women labeled as "mad." She found Packard's story in a University of Wisconsin essay and was captivated by her insanity trial. Packard, a 19th-century mother of six, was institutionalized by her husband for asserting her independence. Moore highlights Packard's resilience, her literary talents, and her crowdfunding efforts to publish her memoirs. The book's detailed research includes historical documents and personal accounts, emphasizing Packard's impact and the ongoing struggle against women's silencing. Liz and Mandy share keynote insights and additional portions of this interview in this week's Pesky Picks Q & A - only for LUNASHARK Premium Members. Stay Tuned... ☕ Cups Up And 'Cheers'! ⚖️ Meet New York Times Bestseller Kate Moore and her incredible books! 📚 Connect with Kate Moore on Facebook 👋 Elizabeth Packard on the National Women’s History Museum’s website 🌐 Episode References “Gov. Pritzker Announces Mental Health Center Renamed for Elizabeth Packard” - Illinois Governor’s Office, August 9, 2023 📰 Learn more about Liza’s Lifeline and how to support their mission. 🫶 Mica Francis Case & The “Unrighteous” Millers Playlist on Spotify 🎧 Stay Tuned, Stay Pesky and Stay in the Sunlight...☀️ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Premium Members⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ also get access to all new bonus episodes like the corruption watchlist, Girl Talk (Liz & Mandy's Version), Premium Dives series, Q&A Episodes and more. Plus video episodes, case files, live trial coverage and exclusive live experiences with our hosts. ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠CLICK HERE⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ to learn more and join with Promo Code "COJ25" for your first month free!⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/3BdUtOE⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. Check out Luna Shark Merch With a Mission shop at⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠lunasharkmerch.com/⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ What We're Buying... ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Quince⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ - Give yourself the luxury you deserve with Quince! Go to⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Quince.com/COJ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ for free shipping on your order and 365-day returns Here's a link to some of our favorite things:⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://amzn.to/4cJ0eVn⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠SUNscribe⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ to our⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ free email list⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ to get alerts on bonus episodes, calls to action, new shows and updates.⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠CLICK HERE⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ to learn more:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://bit.ly/3KBM⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Find us on social media: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.facebook.com/cupofjustice/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ | ⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/cojpod/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠Mandy Matney on Instagram⁠ | ⁠Liz Farrell on Instagram⁠ | ⁠Eric Bland on Instagram⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠YouTube⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ |⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠TIKTOK⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ *** Alert: If you ever notice audio errors in the pod, email ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠info@lunasharkmedia.com ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠and we'll send fun merch to the first listener that finds something that needs to be adjusted! *** Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0	Hello and Happy Tuesday. We have such an incredible episode for you today, one that honestly, I think I needed my entire life.
0:14.8	Liz and I are so thrilled to welcome the amazing author, Kate Moore, who wrote one of my favorite books ever,
0:23.4	The Woman They Could Not Silence. In the book, Kate dives deep into the jaw-dropping, maddening,
0:31.5	an ultimately incredibly inspiring story of Elizabeth Packard, an Illinois housewife in the 1860s, and mother of six who
0:41.3	dared to have her own thoughts and opinions. Her husband, a pastor, no less, committed her to an
0:49.0	insane asylum simply for speaking her mind. Tell me, does that scenario sound familiar? It's just so
0:57.3	maddening because Elizabeth's story reminds me so much of what we've seen with Micah Miller,
1:03.3	where a woman's husband used that crazy label to control her and get society to disregard her
1:10.5	pleas for help.
1:11.6	It's like Elizabeth had this inexplicable foresight, knowing that her story was so much bigger than herself.
1:19.6	Elizabeth's resilience is truly inspirational.
1:23.6	She kept going against all odds, becoming the leader she was born to be, even within
1:29.9	the asylum walls.
1:31.9	She fought for other women at every step of her journey.
1:36.3	Later this week, Lunashark Premium members can catch our analysis of Kate Moore's book,
1:42.2	the woman they could not silence, and the rest of our really important
1:46.4	interview with Kate Moore. Visit lunashark.supercast.com to learn more. Again, there is so much
1:53.9	more with Elizabeth Packard's story. I could go on for years. And speaking of women inspiring women, guys, I'm so happy I finally get to
2:04.3	tell you where I donated my car. This story has been a long time coming, but ultimately,
2:10.6	we decided to donate the car that carried me through the Murdoch murders and the car that
2:15.8	the Britney Snow drove in the Hulu show that's
2:19.5	coming out this fall to an amazing South Carolina-based organization called Liza's Lifeline.
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