COJ #113 - Why Cory Fleming Wasn’t Biggest Loser in Nautilus Case + Can Mica Francis’ Family Still Sue for Her Death?

Cup Of Justice

Luna Shark Productions

True Crime, News Commentary, How To, Education, News

4.6 • 3.9K Ratings

🗓️ 14 January 2025

⏱️ 66 minutes

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Summary

Investigative journalists Mandy Matney and Liz Farrell and attorney Eric Bland talk about the horrors of the Los Angeles wildfires and how Big Insurance, as well as systemic failures in government preparation have made a catastrophic situation even worse. Closer to home, the three talk about the success of Luna Shark's billboard blitz in the hopes of seeking answers in the Stephen Smith case (not to mention Sandy Smith’s decision to increase the reward to $50,000 for information leading to arrests in her son’s murder case). Also on the show, a federal jury found Cory Fleming liable for his part in Alex Murdaugh’s scheme to steal millions from Gloria Satterfield’s family, but is HE the biggest loser to emerge from the Nautilus trial? Or did the insurance company waste untold amounts of time and money in launching an easily predictable losing battle over something that may ultimately be their own fault? Plus, the latest in the Mica Francis case: Emails and texts show that JP MIller — and his right hand woman Tricia Ross — accused an Horry County Police Department officer of being at fault for Mica’s death. AND Wayne Miller’s odd real estate connection to Mica’s divorce attorney Regina Ward — who also represented Mica’s family in the fight over who would be personal representative for Mica. 🥽 Let's Dive In... 🦈 Episode Resources “Photos: Satellite images of wildfires burning in Southern California” - NBC Los Angeles, Updated Jan 11, 2025 Stephen Smith “Billboards, Reward Focus New Attention on Stephen Smith Case” - Court TV interview with EB, Jan 10, 2025 Mandy’s Instagram post celebrating Court TV sharing billboards - Jan 10, 2025 “SC billboards seek information about Stephen Smith’s killing. Here’s the latest on the case” - The State, Updated Jan 7, 2025 Cory Fleming “Jury decides Cory Fleming is liable for role in Murdaugh insurance scheme, owes $1.25M” - The Post and Courier, Jan 8, 2025 Nautilus’ Updated Increased Damages Award from Cory Fleming - Jan 9, 2025 Nautilus’ Better Business Bureau’s Complaints JP Miller Listen to True Sunlight episode 82 for latest updates on Regina Ward connection to Wayne Miller Premium Members also get access to episode videos, case files, live trial coverage and exclusive live experiences with our hosts. CLICK HERE to learn more: https://bit.ly/3BdUtOE. Check out Luna Shark Merch With a Mission shop at lunasharkmerch.com/ What We're Buying... Eric Bland's New Book!!! - Mandy's Book in Paperback!! - Marcia Clark's New Book - Amanda Knox's New Book - Tamron Hall's New Book - Erin Lee Carr's Book Peloton - onepeloton.com Find your push. Find your power with Peloton at onepeloton.com. Here's a link to some of our favorite things: https://amzn.to/4cJ0eVn Find us on social media: bsky.app/profile/mandy-matney.com | bsky.app/profile/elizfarrell.com | bsky.app/profile/theericbland.bsky.social Twitter.com/mandymatney | Twitter.com/elizfarrell | Twitter.com/theericbland https://www.facebook.com/cupofjustice/ | https://www.instagram.com/cojpod/ YouTube | TIKTOK SUNscribe to our free email list to get alerts on bonus episodes, calls to action, new shows and updates. CLICK HERE to learn more: https://bit.ly/3KBM *** Alert: If you ever notice audio errors in the pod, email info@lunasharkmedia.com and we'll send fun merch to the first listener that finds something that needs to be adjusted! *** *The views expressed on the Cup of Justice episodes do not constitute legal advice. Listeners desiring legal advice for any particular legal matter are urged to consult an attorney of their choosing who can provide legal advice based upon a full understanding of the facts and circumstances of their claim. The views expressed on the Cup of Justice episodes also do not express the views or opinions of Bland Richter, LLP, or its attorneys. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0	Hey there, listeners, E.B. here, and I want to tell you about a new weekly podcast that I'm hosting.
0:06.5	I love being a lawyer, being a speaker. I absolutely am looking forward to being an author of my book,
0:13.3	anything but bland, but I'm excited to tell you that I'm launching my very own podcast called Good Skill,
0:19.1	betting on yourself. I delve into the idea that success
0:22.6	isn't merely about luck, but is instead achieved through honing skills and strategic efforts
0:28.1	in planning. Each episode of Good Skill offers listeners an insightful journey into the minds of
0:33.9	individuals who are reshaping their respective industries and their careers.
0:38.3	Good skills serves as a beacon of inspiration with a roster of interesting guests like independent
0:44.3	journalist, Media Disruptor, and Cup of Justice co-host Mandy Matney, these conversations empower
0:50.4	listeners seeking to make their mark in the world.
0:53.5	Visit the Ericblan.com website to learn more or listen wherever you get your podcasts.
1:03.0	Hello and happy Tuesday.
1:10.2	On today's show, we talk about the wildfires in Los Angeles and well, we are stunned and heartbroken.
1:16.6	The thought of so much loss in such a short amount of time is hard to fathom.
1:21.6	Our hearts are with everyone who has lost their home, the firefighters who are giving it their all,
1:26.6	and with everyone who has had to evacuate, not knowing who are giving it their all, and with everyone who
1:28.3	has had to evacuate, not knowing if they had a home to come back to. As you all know, a month ago
1:34.7	today, Liz, David, and I were in L.A. to visit the Writers' Room for the scripted Hulu series based
1:41.4	on a reporting about the never-ending Murdoch saga.
1:45.0	We had an amazing time and hung out with some spectacular people.
1:49.0	We really got to know the area better, so the fires hit different in that way.
1:54.0	Some of the houses and landmarks we saw are just gone now, and it's just surreal to think about.
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