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Coffee House Shots: what's stalling Brexit talks?

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🗓️ 15 October 2019

⏱️ 16 minutes

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With Katy Balls and James Forsyth.

Presented by Cindy Yu.

Coffee House Shots is a series of podcasts on British politics from the Spectator's political team and special guests. Brought to you daily, click here to find more episodes that are not released on Spectator Radio.

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0:00.0

This is Spectator Radio. If you'd like to subscribe to The Spectator, you can get 12 issues for £12

0:05.2

£12, as well as a £20 £20,000, Amazon Voucher. Just go to spectator.com.com. Hello and welcome to

0:16.3

Coffee House Shots, the Spectator's Daily Politics Podcast. I'm Cindy U. and I'm joined by James Forsyth and

0:22.1

Katie Balls. So it's only a couple of days before the EU Council is supposed to meet where

0:26.6

they were supposed to be hammering out a Brexit deal. James, where are we at with the Brexit negotiations?

0:32.2

Well, we're already known more in our midnight podcast because Michelle Barnier has set a deadline

0:37.0

of midnight. Brussels time or Luxembourg

0:39.6

time so 11 p.m. our time for progress. So I think while there is still some progress being made,

0:45.8

I think there is a little bit less optimism as right of this moment, which is 12.01 or something

0:52.9

when there has been produced.. I think the EU are

0:54.9

basically trying to use the time pressure to say, right, if you want this deal, you need to sign up to

1:00.7

more concessions on this, more concessions on that. I mean, that is making things harder. Boros Johnson

1:06.6

met the DUP last night, and there are obviously limits to how much further he can go on the Northern Ireland only aspect of things without upsetting them. And then don't forget this

1:15.5

whole issue of level playing field requirements. One of the things that makes a deal between

1:20.2

on the Irish border simpler, the idea that UK-EU trade after Brexit would be tariff-free

1:26.3

and quota-free.

1:30.3

That was in the Theresa May political declaration.

1:35.3

But lots of people on the EU side are very keen to say that was in the Theresa May political declaration because it was clear that she was committed to all sorts of level playing field provisions.

1:39.7

Boris Johnson doesn't want to make those same commitments because he and just importantly and other

1:46.4

people on the more Euro-Sceptic, the Tory party feel that making those commitments kind of slightly

1:51.0

nullifies the point of Brexit. If the UK can't make its own decisions about what it wants

1:55.9

to do on social and environmental and all that stuff, then, you know, that limits the utility of Brexit.

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