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Yesterday, Peter O'Born set the world a light with an article, where he said that he was changing his position on Brexit.

He used to back it, but various things

have led him to change his mind. I'm Fraser Nelson, and I also changed my mind over the years,

but the other way, from Remain to Leave. But given how much I tend to agree with Peter Ron,

I'm interested to find out why he changed his mind,

if I'm the one who's blinkered, and whether the situation really does call for a fundamental

reassessment of not just what we think about Brexit, but what the country thinks about Brexit.

Peter, it's great to be with you today. Can you say a bit about how you changed your mind? Were there any

points of this journey? Was there a day where you woke up and saw a news development and thought

this is fundamentally different to how I imagined it would be? Yeah, there have been several,

there were several sort of punches to the solar plexus. And the economic one, it was symbolic more than anything else, but it was when

James Dyson, he was the sort of poster boy of Brexit, this great industrialist who said it was

okay to Brexit, good to Brexit. And when he suddenly announced he was upping sticks and going to

Singapore, it was like a punch to the solar plexers to me. And then Jim Radcliffe, the great

chemicals industrialist, evacuates Britain to me. And then Jim Radcliffe, the great chemicals industrialist,

evacuates Britain more recently. And that was at a moment when suddenly the head offices of so many

major international companies start to quit Britain, Panasonic, Sonny, Honda closes its plant in Swindon, the news coming from the northeast.

You suddenly started to wonder whether the economic model set out by the Brexiteers

maybe was an absolute falsehood, as I believe it is.

Further back, Trump, I think behind Brexit laid the idea of a benign international order,

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