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Coffee House Shots: Jeremy Hunt on Trump, Budgets and Welsh whisky

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🗓️ 21 June 2025

⏱️ 17 minutes

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Summary

On this week’s special Saturday edition of Coffee House Shots, James Heale sits down with Jeremy Hunt to discuss his new book, Can We Be Great Again?. The former chancellor and foreign secretary argues that Britain remains one of the world’s most influential nations – but is in danger of losing its nerve. He reflects on working in the Foreign Office during Donald Trump’s first term, makes the case for the BBC as a tool of soft power, and admits he wanted to be the first chancellor since 1997 to deliver a Budget with a whisky in hand.


Produced by Oscar Edmondson and Patrick Gibbons.

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Hello and welcome to the special Saturday edition of Coffee House Shots. I'm James Heel and I'm delighted to be joined today by the former Chancellor and Foreign Secretary Jeremy Hunt, who's got a new book out, Can We Be Great Again, Why Dangerous World Needs Britain?

0:55.1

Jeremy, thanks for coming to today.

0:56.5

Thank you, James. Pleasure.

0:58.0

Why this book and why now?

1:03.9

Because I think we are facing a chronic lack of self-confidence as a country.

1:07.6

We've had a miserable period since the financial crisis,

1:14.6

and people have started to lose confidence in ourselves. And the argument in the book is that this is actually overstated. When I was Foreign Secretary, I sat in this incredibly grand

1:21.9

office by far the nicest office in Whitehall. And you ask yourself, is this an imperial delusion? And we obviously don't

1:28.9

have an empire now. But I wanted to write this book to find out objectively whether we are a

1:35.4

great country, by which I mean, not Donald Trump's definition, but whether we're a country

1:39.9

that can shape the world as well as be shaped by it. And in the book, I took the seven or eight biggest problems the world faces.

1:48.8

And, you know, whether it's the future of democracy or security in Europe or climate change or the migration crisis in every single one, the experts, the independent experts say that out of 193 countries in the United Nations,

2:02.6

the UK is easily one of the top 10 most influential and often the top five.

2:08.6

And my argument is really, it's not a jingoistic argument.

2:11.6

It is that, and I would say the same thing to an audience of French or Germans or Americans, I'd say that it's a very, very

2:19.0

dangerous world right now, the most dangerous it's been in my adult lifetime. And countries with

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