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🗓️ 26 March 2019
⏱️ 14 minutes
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With Katy Balls and James Forsyth.
Presented by Fraser Nelson.
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0:00.0 | This is Spectator Radio, the Spectator's curated podcast collection. |
0:07.0 | Hello and welcome to Coffee House Shots, the Spectator's Daily Politics Podcast. |
0:11.7 | I'm Katie Balls and I'm joined by Fraser Nelson and James Versafe. |
0:15.4 | So, after much speculation in recent months, |
0:19.1 | finally MPs have seized control of the government's agenda |
0:22.1 | and there will be a vote on indicative options, Brexit options, tomorrow night. This appears to |
0:28.8 | have scared some Brexiteers and made them reconsider Theresa May's deal. This morning, Jacob Rees-Mogg |
0:34.9 | has concluded that Theresa May's deal is now the least |
0:37.5 | worst option. Fraser, what does this change of heart from a lead Brexiteer mean? |
0:43.5 | Well, quite a lot, actually. I mean, Jacob Rees-Mogg has been seen as the bellwether |
0:48.5 | Brexiteer, the chairman of the European research group, a guy who is seen to be able to bring lots of other people with him. |
0:56.1 | For a long time now, the government has been working on him, saying, you know, what would it take? |
1:00.8 | And he has always held out the possibility that he might change his mind. |
1:05.6 | He's not one of these Tories who says, come hell or high water, I'm not going to vote for Theresa May's deal. He's always |
1:12.0 | hinted that he was open to reason. What I can't work out is why he would change his mind now. |
1:18.1 | If he changes mine before the second vote, it might have passed. Now, of course, we do know |
1:23.0 | what the big change is. The big change is that Oliver's army, Letwin's lots have managed to seize control |
1:29.2 | from them the government and give the Parliament all these indicative votes, making it manifestly |
1:34.6 | clear to those who hadn't quite worked it at before that all of the likely alternatives to Theresa May's |
1:40.4 | deal are worse than Theresa May's deal, certainly from a Brexiteer point of view. |
1:45.8 | Now, I can see why it took him so long. I was always holding out for something better. I think |
1:50.6 | her deal is awful. I really thought that the EU might have been persuaded to compromise and do |
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