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Coffee House Shots: is Huawei dangerous?

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🗓️ 18 January 2020

⏱️ 13 minutes

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Summary

With Tom Tugendhat MP and Robin Pagnamenta, Head of Technology at the Telegraph.

Presented by Katy Balls.

Coffee House Shots is a series of podcasts on British politics from the Spectator's political team and special guests. Brought to you daily, click here to find more episodes that are not released on Spectator Radio.

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0:00.0

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0:17.3

Hello and welcome to Coffee House Shots and the special Saturday edition.

0:21.1

With the government backed by a majority of 80, there are opportunities for domestic policy like never before.

0:26.3

But there is one decision that looms on national security and the government's future plans for 5G, and that involves Huawei.

0:34.4

I'm joined by Robin Panyamenta, the head of technology at the Tadagraph and Tom Tuganhart,

0:39.3

the former head of the Foreign Affairs Select Committee, who is also vying to continue in that role

0:44.3

in case listeners are ready to offer him their support in their incoming battle.

0:48.3

Now, to focus on this conversation first, Tom, could you just explain to listeners who

0:53.3

perhaps haven't been following

0:54.6

this as closely what decision Boris Johnson and his government are going to have to make

0:58.2

when it comes to the Chinese company Huawei and access to our 5G?

1:02.2

Sure. So 5G is a massive change from 4G. It's not just a generational shift, it's actually

1:08.9

a structural shift. What it does is it reduces the time between

1:13.2

the handset and the network communicating. And by doing that, it makes a lot of things that are

1:18.8

currently impossible, possible. So cars talking to traffic lights or surgeons talking to each other,

1:25.6

maybe remote operations, things like that that require very, very, very low latency time, so the time between action and reaction, are now going to be possible with 5G.

1:34.8

Now, this is a huge advance for the UK. It's a huge advance of the world.

1:39.0

The decision, however, changes the nature of core and non-core technology because traditionally core has been the stuff

1:46.9

that's back in the secure base of Vodafone or 3 or whoever your phone provider is and the non-core

1:53.3

is basically a very clever antenna. Now because of 5G, because of reducing the latency time as it's called,

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