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Coffee House Shots: can MPs take no-deal off the table?

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🗓️ 21 January 2019

⏱️ 12 minutes

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With Katy Balls and James Forsyth.

Presented by Isabel Hardman.

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0:00.0

Hello and welcome to Coffee House Shots, the Spectator's Daily Politics Podcast. I'm Isba Harbman

0:08.1

and I'm joined by James Forsyth and Katie Balls. Now we've got yet another statement from Theresa May

0:13.7

on Brexit in the Commons this afternoon. Katie, what on earth is she going to tell us that we don't

0:18.3

already know? We've had a few clues and it seems like she's going to tell us things that we've already heard before.

0:24.1

So Theresa May was due to come back to the house today and present her next steps and perhaps her plan beyond Brexit.

0:33.1

But the consensus so far is that her plan B looks a lot like her plan A.

0:38.4

So we heard about cross-party talks after she suffered her historic defeat last week, 230 votes.

0:44.2

And there did seem to be a suggestion coming from the Prime Minister's own mouth,

0:48.4

that she was going to try and come up a new plan,

0:50.5

which would look to talking to MPs from other parties.

0:53.5

It seems that after the process of

0:56.0

speaking to such MPs and speaking to figures in her cabinet, there's been a decision made that

1:01.3

actually pivoting for Labour votes is a risky because you can't guarantee you're going to get

1:06.6

them, particularly when Jeremy Corbyn isn't engaging in the conversation, and too divisive. So if

1:11.6

Theresa May were to go to a permanent customs union in the political declaration, a Labour red line,

1:18.0

that might get her votes, but it would lose her some Tory votes and it would risk a split. And

1:23.3

that's that point that has been pressed by figures like Brandon Lewis and Julian Smith.

1:34.7

So her plan B is what we expected her to do all along, as far as we know, which is to try and get a concession on the backstop and through doing that, bring back the Brexiteer MPs and perhaps even the DEP.

1:41.7

This clearly isn't a foolproof plan given that she's been trying to get a concession on the backstop for some time.

1:48.8

And also, there's an added problem, which I think there are some figures in number 10 who think it's going to be even harder to get some form of concession on the backstop.

1:57.2

Because the defeat was so large, figures in Brussels Brussels think that if they don't play ball,

2:02.0

Theresa May will come and press to go for a softer Brexit. That is where the numbers are in Parliament

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