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Coffee House Shots: can anything rescue May from a historic defeat?

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🗓️ 15 January 2019

⏱️ 16 minutes

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With Katy Balls and James Forsyth.

Presented by Cindy Yu.

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0:00.0

Hello and welcome to Coffee House Shots, the Spectators' Daily Politics podcast. I'm Cindy You and I'm joined by Katie Balls and James Forsyth. So it's the day of the big vote and the newspapers are all doom and gloom. The telegraph says that Theresa May is out of time and out of allies. But is it really all doom and gloom and could

0:22.0

anything change over the day? Katie, do we think that this will be anything other than a historic

0:27.6

defeat? I think it's all about the size of the defeat at this point and Theresa May could make

0:33.1

history. The sad thing is for those around her, this won't be good history. If you think about recent Tory rebellions, John Major, around the time of the Dunblane

0:43.3

gunnery forms, that was the defeat of, you know, around 90, I think, maybe 95.

0:47.3

We expect Theresa May to go higher.

0:50.3

We're thinking triple figures, I think at the moment, you look at the number of Conservative MPs who have said publicly that they don't back the deal.

0:57.6

Even taking into account the small trickle of MPs changing their mind, that is around free figures.

1:03.4

In terms of Labour MPs, the number who have said they can support the steel is very low.

1:08.5

And MPs such as Garris Snell, he is a Labour MP who supports the leave seat.

1:13.6

Stoke where Theresa May was just yesterday, he said he can't support the deal in its current form.

1:19.0

That is an MP that number 10 were really banking on, switching over and supporting the deal.

1:24.7

So I think it is going to be very bad defeat, unless some miracle

1:28.9

happens before then. And after it happens, it's really a matter of canteries may claim

1:34.5

that the deal has any hope of passing with more concessions, or is it going to be such a high

1:39.6

number that that begins to, you know, not hold any weight? Yeah, but James, there's still a long day yet,

1:45.3

and there are quite a few amendments on the table

1:47.4

that could be selected by the speaker.

1:49.8

Could any of these change her...

1:51.6

I don't think any of these amendments are going to spare her blushes

1:55.0

because for an amendment to work, it would need to pass,

1:58.9

and then you could have MPs saying,

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