Good morning everyone. Welcome back to Cafferru cast. Frank is back in front of the mic. He's been

gone on many epic journeys and yesterday he took my football coach. I had to come into work. My

football coach came out from Oregon and he took him out while I was in work while I was at work.

And as a super special guest, somebody that's very near and dear to me, we have the great

coach Perkins on the mic today. Yeah. Well, thanks for coming on man. He came out from Oregon for

the deer hunt, which is awesome. You guys got a big buck yesterday. Yeah, we did. He's a biggest

mule deer. I ever killed because it's the only one I've ever killed. Well, that's a good start.

Yeah, that solves that. Well, yes, so for those of you that haven't heard other podcasts where I

mentioned coach Perkins, he was my high school football coach at San E. M. High School. I'm

back from Oregon. And for those people, as I get older, you will find someone, whether it be good or

bad, that will probably be pivotal in your life. And Perkins was that guy for me. I told Frank

early this morning without how to explain it. You could, well, you had the ability, well,

your motivational speeches were second to none, but you had the ability to make someone feel that

they were capable of anything. And I mean, I can say for, you know, from 20 years ago until now,

I can still hear things that you said back then and the back. I mean, even me just getting

my ass kicked on the mountain for mule deer, there were things that stuck in my mind that you had

said in the 90s that never went away. And I can't thank you enough for, I mean, it was you were very

pivotal person in my life. And I can't, and it's great that you're out here mule deer,

honey, we've stayed in contact. So I can't say that say enough about who you are as a person and what

you did for me. I appreciate that Aaron. You're right. I had the same thing, you know, growing up at

good coach come in and he did a lot for a lot of us, you know, and so I come from Ohio originally,

and coaches, he says, pay it back, but a couple good coaches back in the day said, pay it forward.

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