So joining us now is someone that I've wanted to have on for a long time.

We got to know each other through some of the people at basketball insiders that he

knew and then he's been a guest at Sports Business Classroom.

The last couple of years working in the Rockets organization for a while, then was a head coach

at Northern Arizona and most recently, player development coach for the Phoenix Suns,

Cody Topper.

How you doing?

I'm excited to be on here.

We've been meeting to do this for some time now.

I'm really excited to be here tonight.

Yeah.

Well, and I appreciate you saying that.

So let's get right to it here.

I wanted to have you on after game two of the finals because I know you and everyone

else in the NBA has been watching with wrapped interest to see this two good coaches, two teams

with a lot of versatile pieces, a lot of pieces that require some creative solutions.

So just your general thoughts to start out here, anything that's popped out to you from

a coaching perspective in the series that maybe you wouldn't have been anticipated

it beforehand?

Yeah.

I mean, I don't know that I'd say there are certain things that maybe I didn't necessarily

anticipate because I saw early in the season where Nick Nurse kind of had the foresight

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