You're listening to the Co-Main Event Podcast,

and now your hosts, Ben Fulks and Chad Dundas.

That's right.

You're listening to another episode of the co-main event mixed martial arts podcast.

I'm your co-host from bleacherreport.com, Chad Dundas.

And joining us, as always, from m.m.a junkie.com and USA Today, it's your friend and mine, Ben, Fulks.

Ben, you're fresh back from the ABQ.

You've been hobnobbing with the mixed martial

arts elite. That's right. Down there in Albuquerque. Do you have any stories or anecdotes that

are fit for consumption to begin the co-main event podcast or are you just saving them for hashtag

lifestyle piece? Well, I am saving my my good stuff for hashtag lifestyle piece. We know you don't use your good stuff on this show.

No, that's no surprise.

I mean, I think that that should be obvious to anybody who has actually listened to the show.

But, you know, I will say a good experience to go down there and watch those guys, get to watch those guys train and kind of see how they work.

One thing that struck me that kind of seems like a huge advantage when you have Greg Jackson's

stable of fighters is there's a moment like during jiu-jitsu practice where, you know,

Greg Jackson shows a couple different escapes on the body triangle and then Tim Kennedy shows one.

And it's not every gym in America where one of the dudes can show a technique and be like, I was thinking about

this one after I had my first UFC fight against Hodger Gracie, and he got my back, and this is how

I got out of it. That seems like, you know, and that's just a run-of-the-mill kind of thing that happens down there.

Yeah, I know that seems like a huge advantage.

Like when you're down at Greg Jackson's, I assume, like, the guys that you don't know on site are, you know, they turn out to be like Adlan Omogov and stuff like that, like, which would terrify you if you went there as an actual gym member, but as a guy who just gets to stand on the side and observe,

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