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Right, for this little podcast, Martin's not here because he's away you were at the

with the Vale with Wales captain how are you kory co captain co captain is that an

important co yeah it is it is, yeah.

Me and Alice jumped at the hip now, we can't get us away from each other.

So we got to eat together, we got room together.

Yeah.

How does it work?

How does it? I mean, A and well done. But how does it actually work?

Well to be honest I don't know you were guess as good as mine.

Nah look, Gats were said to us everyone's gonna be part of the tour and everyone's going to play

a part.

So it's going to be no bag out lids, so everyone's going to get that test jersey.

So look, one of us might not play a test, I guess in the other one will cap on the side so

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