CNN Insists "Who can tell the Motive?" of Charlie Kirk's Murderer plus "Loving" Texts between the Murderer & His Boyfriend
The Ben Ferguson Podcast
iHeartPodcasts
4.8 • 5.4K Ratings
🗓️ 17 September 2025
⏱️ 38 minutes
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Summary
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CNN Debate (WATCH): Cruz defends his decision to appear on CNN, criticizing Collins for interrupting and for what he portrays as partisan framing. He argues against the idea that political violence is equally present on both sides of the spectrum.
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Media Narratives: The podcast accuses outlets like CNN, MSNBC, and ABC of dishonesty, especially in their coverage of motives behind the assassination. Cruz and Ferguson highlight what they view as selective reporting and propaganda.
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Released Text Messages: They discuss text exchanges between the accused killer and his partner, portraying them as a direct confession. They sharply criticize ABC News for characterizing these messages as “touching” or “romantic.”
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Contrasting Responses to Violence: Cruz draws comparisons between left-wing protests (e.g., George Floyd protests, Antifa, BLM) and right-wing responses, arguing conservatives respond with prayer and peace while leftists respond with riots and violence.
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Community & Advocacy: The episode also promotes the International Fellowship of Christians and Jews’ “Flags of Fellowship” campaign, encouraging solidarity with Israel and remembrance of victims of the October 2023 terror attack.
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| 0:00.0 | This is an I-Heart podcast. |
| 0:05.4 | Welcome. It is Vertiquist. Ted Cruz, Ben Ferguson, with you. So nice to have you with us. |
| 0:10.8 | And just so you guys know, we are doing almost every episode now on YouTube as well. |
| 0:16.0 | So if you want to watch this show, you can do it on YouTube as well. |
| 0:20.7 | This episode we're doing right now |
| 0:21.9 | is on YouTube and on audio downloads wherever you get your podcast. So we'll remind you about that, |
| 0:27.1 | but we're certainly very, very, very excited about that. Senator, we've got a lot to chat about |
| 0:31.7 | tonight, including you going into the Lionsden where I live for seven years. At first, I got |
| 0:37.3 | a text from someone and said, hey, what bet did Ted Cruz lose to go on CNN |
| 0:41.3 | with Caitlin Collins? |
| 0:42.6 | That's actually a very good question. |
| 0:44.5 | It was not with me. |
| 0:46.0 | It would have been a great bet. |
| 0:47.3 | All of a sudden, I get text message. |
| 0:49.7 | You're on there. |
| 0:50.2 | I start watching, and it was some fireworks. |
| 0:53.4 | Well, tonight I went on CNN with Caitlin Collins, |
| 0:56.4 | and I did so because CNN has been pushing so much misinformation in the wake of Charlie Kirk's |
| 1:02.9 | assassination that I wanted to go on and push back. And they've been big on the whole both sidesism, |
| 1:10.4 | that it's really both sides. |
| 1:11.8 | It's Republicans and Democrats that are engaging in violence. |
| 1:14.7 | It's Republicans and Democrats that engage in hateful, violent rhetoric. |
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