CNN Guest Believes Trump was a Whistleblower Who Helped Stop Epstein

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🗓️ 18 November 2025

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The Rich Zeoli Show- Hour 2: 4:00pm- While appearing on CNN with Michael Smerconish, author Barry Levine hypothesized that Donald Trump may have been the 2004 whistleblower that spoke with Palm Beach police about Jeffrey Epstein predations—leading to an investigation. He noted that Speaker of the House Mike Johnson has also made a similar claim. 4:10pm- While appearing on CNN with Dana Bash, Congresswoman Marjorie Taylor Greene theorized that Jeffrey Epstein worked with foreign governments—who are now attempting to prevent the release of the Epstein files. 4:15pm- As of late September, the Democratic National Committee had not returned decades-old donations from Jeffrey Epstein. 4:20pm- Congressman Thomas Massie (R-KY)—who is in the middle of a public feud with President Trump—told This Week’s Jonathan Karl that “I’ve never said that [the Epstein] files will implicate Donald Trump, and I really don’t think they will.” 4:25pm- Democratic strategist James Carville is predicting that if Democrats regain power in 2028, they will expand the Supreme Court to 13 seats—and immediately make Washington D.C. and Puerto Rico as the 51st and 52nd states, adding 4 Democratic U.S. Senators. 4:30pm- Susan Crabtree— RealClearPolitics National Political Correspondent & Author of the book, “Fools Gold: The Radicals, Con Artists, and Traitors Who Killed the California Dream and Now Threaten Us All”—to discuss the latest regarding the FBI and Secret Service investigation into Thomas Crooks and the attempted assassination of Donald Trump. Crabtree’s work was referenced in Miranda Devine’s latest bombshell report for The New York Post. You can find the article here: https://nypost.com/2025/11/17/opinion/fbi-secret-service-butchered-the-thomas-crooks-case-and-invited-conspiracies-we-deserve-the-truth/.

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0:27.2	On X at Rich Zioly and the governor of Pennsylvania and the governor of Michigan hanging out like besties, BFFs, two with major presidential ambitions and a potential ticket right there as they
0:41.5	are on the front page of the newspapers across both Michigan and Pennsylvania.
0:47.8	We'll talk about that too, this hour.
0:50.7	Now, the whole thing with Epstein, which you've got to realize right now, and something I've
0:55.1	said for a while, is that the idea that Jeffrey Epstein was connected to Donald Trump is, I mean,
1:01.8	in terms of doing anything wrong, Trump doing anything wrong is crazy, it's nuts. There's another
1:08.0	layer to this story, and credit to Michael Smirkanis of CNN, who had this author on, who wrote this book.
1:15.7	And this guy was basically suggesting, and this is cut number five, was basically suggesting, it's very possible, Barry Levine, his name is, that when Epstein wrote that 2011 email about Trump, it might have been Trump who actually turned him in to the authorities.
1:31.3	So then that begs the question, why not answer that question right now?
1:37.5	I have a theory about that. Take a listen.
1:41.3	On that 2011 email, we'll put it up on the screen, and I will ask you, the dog that hasn't barked is Trump.
1:48.8	What do you think he's referring to?
1:52.4	Well, I think Jeffrey Epstein is referring to the fact that he believes that Donald Trump talked to Michael Ryder, who was the Palm Beach Police Chief in 2004,
2:04.8	and began the first investigation into Jeffrey Epstein.
2:09.1	I suspect that Jeffrey Epstein, in his conversation or email with Maxwell, was saying he was
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